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Re: American Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:39 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Callum wrote:I feel like one of the Trump spawn will run, although Donald may run again himself. I don't think Trumpism will disappear overnight, even if he loses heavily.


If Trump loses it will mean 4 years of socialism in America. That almost certain disaster will pave the way for 2 decades of Trumps.


Donald himself is a one and done President, no clue why you think his mouth breathing children would dominate for two decades.


If Biden wins, America will soon get tired of socialism.
It'e a rotten ideology to the core and brings nothing but misery.


Don't be fooled.

Look at what Biden is, he's a puppet of the senior ranking Democrats (Clintons & co), he's one of them.
So all America will get are all the promises and none of the delivery, status quo, same old, same old.

That's what Biden has been put in and backed to do, to keep the Presidency away from those like Gabbard and Bernie who actually want real change.

Its unprecedented the amount of Dems who are now trying to run without PAC money, there's a reason for that, they are crusaders who know if they take that money they become bought and paid for.

No PAC money no backing from the party.

Biden will change nothing but lubricate the Democrats power base and political and financial connections.

He's what we used to call back when I was young "A skunk p*ssy bastard" :rofll: I don't know where that came from but I haven't heard that saying in over a decade, I just remembered it now, that's the sort of feelings the Hypocrats stir in me.
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:46 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Callum wrote:I feel like one of the Trump spawn will run, although Donald may run again himself. I don't think Trumpism will disappear overnight, even if he loses heavily.


If Trump loses it will mean 4 years of socialism in America. That almost certain disaster will pave the way for 2 decades of Trumps.


Nonsensical right-wing talking point.

Define what you mean by socialism.
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:53 pm

Callum wrote:Fun one for our centrists here: https://www.politicalcompass.org/


If you're going to do the political compass, then don't use that one. As I noted before and Jedi has, the questions are libleft biased and there's no neutral option for its loaded questions.

Use this instead:
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/

Also has the cultural axis, which allows for a more holistic capturing of views.
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:55 pm

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Callum wrote:I feel like one of the Trump spawn will run, although Donald may run again himself. I don't think Trumpism will disappear overnight, even if he loses heavily.


He can't run again. You can only be President once and you can only renew your term once.


22nd Amendment: limit of 2 terms and max of 10 years

Splitting terms is constitutional.
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:03 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Callum wrote:I feel like one of the Trump spawn will run, although Donald may run again himself. I don't think Trumpism will disappear overnight, even if he loses heavily.


If Trump loses it will mean 4 years of socialism in America. That almost certain disaster will pave the way for 2 decades of Trumps.


Donald himself is a one and done President, no clue why you think his mouth breathing children would dominate for two decades.


If Biden wins, America will soon get tired of socialism.
It'e a rotten ideology to the core and brings nothing but misery.


Don't be fooled.

Look at what Biden is, he's a puppet of the senior ranking Democrats (Clintons & co), he's one of them.
So all America will get are all the promises and none of the delivery, status quo, same old, same old.

That's what Biden has been put in and backed to do, to keep the Presidency away from those like Gabbard and Bernie who actually want real change.



So what would you say when we get a public option, decriminalized marijuana, an increase in capital gains tax and corporate tax rates, ending the federal death penalty, DC and Puerto Rico statehood (if they want it), etc.?

Hardly status quo.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Jedi » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:34 pm

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Jedi wrote:That political compass test is complete garbage and worthless.

Half the questions are super loaded and have obvious, morally correct answers that the tests considers "left libertarian" so it throws most people in the bottom left quadrant.

Just looking at the first question It's a borderline emotional appeal:
If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

Do you pick HUMANITY or the GREEDY CORPORATIONS?

I would obviously say here that It's not a zero sum game and that corporations benefitting means that humanity will benefit but with this framing i am forced to pick "strongly agree" because the question already assumes that the corporations benefitting from globalization somehow hurts humanity. It's a ridiculous test.

Edit:
Just ran through it quickly to see where i end up and:
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DG and Jayram = Far-left extremists


Far left extremists would be in the upper left.
That's you - if you had not of lied on your answers.

lay off the drugs

LMAO wrote:
Callum wrote:Fun one for our centrists here: https://www.politicalcompass.org/


If you're going to do the political compass, then don't use that one. As I noted before and Jedi has, the questions are libleft biased and there's no neutral option for its loaded questions.

Use this instead:
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/

Also has the cultural axis, which allows for a more holistic capturing of views.

This one might be slightly better but all political compasses are cancer and i try to steer clear from them.

Edit: I did it and It's definitely more accurate. Should be left leaning economically but meh
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Re: American Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:30 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Royal Gooner wrote:In other news, did you see Pelosi attempt to politicise our vaccine?

Claiming the UK vaccine might not meet US standards is laughable given the US safety standards are so much lower than the UK's. It's clear she's only saying that because Trump made a deal with Boris to buy some. That is low, even for a Democrat.


Not only do they not care about people dying, they want more to die.
To Democrats this is a political weapon.
They are now even trying to isolate it as a Republican virus.

The Democrats reach new lows every week that passes and they have remained in the absolute political gutter for over 4 years. A truly disgusting party.


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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:24 pm

So now we know the Whitmer kidnap plot was hatched by a bunch of Trump hating anarchists, I wonder what this does to the "summer of love" narrative and all those peaceful protests?
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Re: American Politics

Postby Jedi » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:59 pm

jayramfootball wrote:So now we know the Whitmer kidnap plot was hatched by a bunch of Trump hating anarchists, I wonder what this does to the "summer of love" narrative and all those peaceful protests?
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Weird that you're trying to pin this on the protests considering one of the kidnappers posted memes celebrating Kyle Rittenhouse for "smoking commies".


They were Anarcho-Capitalists aka a very far right ideology.

It would only take one google search and you wouldn't have to spread misinformation like this, but don't worry, centrists like me are here to fact check your extremist posts.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:08 pm

jayramfootball wrote:So now we know the Whitmer kidnap plot was hatched by a bunch of Trump hating anarchists, I wonder what this does to the "summer of love" narrative and all those peaceful protests?
:rofll:


What are your sources for saying they are anti Trump?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wxyz.c ... f_amp=true

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bridge ... itol%3famp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlive. ... utType=amp
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Re: American Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:37 pm

LMAO wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Callum wrote:I feel like one of the Trump spawn will run, although Donald may run again himself. I don't think Trumpism will disappear overnight, even if he loses heavily.


If Trump loses it will mean 4 years of socialism in America. That almost certain disaster will pave the way for 2 decades of Trumps.


Donald himself is a one and done President, no clue why you think his mouth breathing children would dominate for two decades.


If Biden wins, America will soon get tired of socialism.
It'e a rotten ideology to the core and brings nothing but misery.


Don't be fooled.

Look at what Biden is, he's a puppet of the senior ranking Democrats (Clintons & co), he's one of them.
So all America will get are all the promises and none of the delivery, status quo, same old, same old.

That's what Biden has been put in and backed to do, to keep the Presidency away from those like Gabbard and Bernie who actually want real change.



So what would you say when we get a public option, decriminalized marijuana, an increase in capital gains tax and corporate tax rates, ending the federal death penalty, DC and Puerto Rico statehood (if they want it), etc.?

Hardly status quo.


I'd say get it then come see me, You'll be lucky to get half that.
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:52 pm

jayramfootball wrote:So now we know the Whitmer kidnap plot was hatched by a bunch of Trump hating anarchists, I wonder what this does to the "summer of love" narrative and all those peaceful protests?
:rofll:


The enlightened centrism is strong with you.



Even the f***ing Daily Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... litia.html

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Re: American Politics

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:02 pm

Wow Jayram really ran with "Trump hating antifa" based on a flag in the back?

Lmfao
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:08 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:Wow Jayram really ran with "Trump hating antifa" based on a flag in the back?

Lmfao


That's not the best part.

Yesterday he was talking about that guy with the flag being some "Antifa brown shirt" because he had a "big Antifa flag on his wall".

...it was an anarchy flag.

:rofll:

How tf are you gonna come on here puffing your chest out and not get that simple detail right? ffs
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Re: American Politics

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:21 pm

LMAO wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Wow Jayram really ran with "Trump hating antifa" based on a flag in the back?

Lmfao


That's not the best part.

Yesterday he was talking about that guy with the flag being some "Antifa brown shirt" because he had a "big Antifa flag on his wall".

...it was an anarchy flag.

:rofll:

How tf are you gonna come on here puffing your chest out and not get that simple detail right? ffs


Oh dear

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