by Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:13 pm
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/3-students-injured-when-california-high-school-teacher-fires-gun-n856481
3 students injured when California high school teacher fires gun during safety course
by ERIK ORTIZ
Three students at a central California high school were injured Tuesday when a teacher fired a gun inside of a classroom during a firearms safety course, according to police and local reports.
by DiamondGooner » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:29 pm
aniym wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/3-students-injured-when-california-high-school-teacher-fires-gun-n856481
3 students injured when California high school teacher fires gun during safety course
by ERIK ORTIZ
Three students at a central California high school were injured Tuesday when a teacher fired a gun inside of a classroom during a firearms safety course, according to police and local reports.
The guy is reserve police officer too. It's turning into a sad joke now.
by Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:31 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:aniym wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/3-students-injured-when-california-high-school-teacher-fires-gun-n856481
3 students injured when California high school teacher fires gun during safety course
by ERIK ORTIZ
Three students at a central California high school were injured Tuesday when a teacher fired a gun inside of a classroom during a firearms safety course, according to police and local reports.
The guy is reserve police officer too. It's turning into a sad joke now.
................. but they said arming teachers would make the schools safer??
This can't be right.
by LMAO » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:59 am
Royal Gooner wrote:But they had to use a conservative Democrat who said he won't support Pelosi to do that win in Pennsylvania, and even then only scraped through by around 600 votes.
by LMAO » Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:59 am
DiamondGooner wrote:LMAO wrote:If the Democrats can keep this going, then November is going to be a blood bath with a blue tsunami. 20 point Democratic swings all over the nation in special elections since last year is a bad omen for Trump and the complicit GOP; there's now a non-zero chance both the House and Senate flip. Then, all we'll need is eight or so sane Republican senators on board in order to kick Trump out of the White House after the traitorous Russian puppet is impeached in the House.
You do know this crap with the Russians is BS right?
Do you honestly think Trump had any sort of deal with the Russians? and all this Russian hacking BS, again do you think millions of Americans voted a certain way because of Russian hacking?
This is just a Democrat ghost story because its un-provable and so won't go away.
All Governments particularly China, America and Russia do cyber spying and tampering but that does not influence the citizens or how they vote, it may result in a leaked file or whatever but that's about it, Trump had nothing to do with it and so that is not grounds for an impeachment.
by EliteKiller » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:18 am
LMAO wrote:If the Russian investigation were a farce, why does basically every person who was on the Trump campaign team have ties to the Kremlin?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/
Why did Trump not report anything to the FBI after being informed that Russia may attempt to infiltrate his campaign?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-warned-trump-2016-russians-would-try-infiltrate-his-campaign-n830596
Why did Trump fire Comey and tried to fire Mueller to stop the Russia investigation?
WaPo article about what we've publicly learned thus far (and firing of Comey)
When Trump tried to fire Mueller
If there's nothing to hide, then he shouldn't worry. But innocent people don't actively try to obstruct justice in an investigation into them.
Why did Trump supposedly allow Russia to prevent Romney (who was a hardliner against Russia) from becoming Secretary of State, instead installing Tillerson (who was chummy with Putin)?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376746-russia-says-it-stopped-mitt-romney-from-becoming-secretary-of-state/
If there was no collusion/conspiracy/whatever tf you want to call it, why did the Trump campaign try to establish a back channel to the Kremlin?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-gathers-evidence-that-2016-seychelles-meeting-was-effort-to-establish-back-channel-to-kremlin/2018/03/07/b6a5fb8c-224b-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.476e6293d62c
Why did the Trump Organization negotiate with a sanctioned Russian bank in 2016?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/15/trump-organization-negotiated-with-sanctioned-russian-bank-in-2016
Why did Mueller subpoena the Trump Organization, demanding documents about Russia if there is no reasonable suspicion?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-organization-subpoena-mueller-russia.html
Trump can't maintain a position on anything...except Russia. That raises a few suspicions tbh. He's consistently hitting out against our allies/NATO, which is what Putin would want—a decrease in American influence around the world so Russia can swoop in to fill the vaccuum.
And yes, I do believe Russian propaganda influenced the election to favor Trump; it may not have been millions of Americans who fell for it, but it was definitely enough to swing the election—Trump won because of ~80,000 votes in 3 states. Too many of my fellow citizens are gullible as hell and deal in feels instead of reals. The same happened with Brexit in your country (never mind I didn't want Trump and you didn't want to remain, that's not the point).
There's no formal list for impeachable offenses (people holding office could theoretically be impeached for being left-handed). It only requires a simple majority in the House to impeach and 2/3 in the Senate to remove from office. Obstruction of justice will land him in hot water this coming January, though, should the House flip.
by DiamondGooner » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:37 am
LMAO wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:LMAO wrote:If the Democrats can keep this going, then November is going to be a blood bath with a blue tsunami. 20 point Democratic swings all over the nation in special elections since last year is a bad omen for Trump and the complicit GOP; there's now a non-zero chance both the House and Senate flip. Then, all we'll need is eight or so sane Republican senators on board in order to kick Trump out of the White House after the traitorous Russian puppet is impeached in the House.
You do know this crap with the Russians is BS right?
Do you honestly think Trump had any sort of deal with the Russians? and all this Russian hacking BS, again do you think millions of Americans voted a certain way because of Russian hacking?
This is just a Democrat ghost story because its un-provable and so won't go away.
All Governments particularly China, America and Russia do cyber spying and tampering but that does not influence the citizens or how they vote, it may result in a leaked file or whatever but that's about it, Trump had nothing to do with it and so that is not grounds for an impeachment.
If the Russian investigation were a farce, why does basically every person who was on the Trump campaign team have ties to the Kremlin?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/
Why did Trump not report anything to the FBI after being informed that Russia may attempt to infiltrate his campaign?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-warned-trump-2016-russians-would-try-infiltrate-his-campaign-n830596
Why did Trump fire Comey and tried to fire Mueller to stop the Russia investigation?
WaPo article about what we've publicly learned thus far (and firing of Comey)
When Trump tried to fire Mueller
If there's nothing to hide, then he shouldn't worry. But innocent people don't actively try to obstruct justice in an investigation into them.
Why did Trump supposedly allow Russia to prevent Romney (who was a hardliner against Russia) from becoming Secretary of State, instead installing Tillerson (who was chummy with Putin)?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376746-russia-says-it-stopped-mitt-romney-from-becoming-secretary-of-state/
If there was no collusion/conspiracy/whatever tf you want to call it, why did the Trump campaign try to establish a back channel to the Kremlin?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-gathers-evidence-that-2016-seychelles-meeting-was-effort-to-establish-back-channel-to-kremlin/2018/03/07/b6a5fb8c-224b-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.476e6293d62c
Why did the Trump Organization negotiate with a sanctioned Russian bank in 2016?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/15/trump-organization-negotiated-with-sanctioned-russian-bank-in-2016
Why did Mueller subpoena the Trump Organization, demanding documents about Russia if there is no reasonable suspicion?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-organization-subpoena-mueller-russia.html
Trump can't maintain a position on anything...except Russia. That raises a few suspicions tbh. He's consistently hitting out against our allies/NATO, which is what Putin would want—a decrease in American influence around the world so Russia can swoop in to fill the vaccuum.
And yes, I do believe Russian propaganda influenced the election to favor Trump; it may not have been millions of Americans who fell for it, but it was definitely enough to swing the election—Trump won because of ~80,000 votes in 3 states. Too many of my fellow citizens are gullible as hell and deal in feels instead of reals. The same happened with Brexit in your country (never mind I didn't want Trump and you didn't want to remain, that's not the point).
There's no formal list for impeachable offenses (people holding office could theoretically be impeached for being left-handed). It only requires a simple majority in the House to impeach and 2/3 in the Senate to remove from office. Obstruction of justice will land him in hot water this coming January, though, should the House flip.
by LMAO » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:02 am
EliteKiller wrote:LMAO wrote:If the Russian investigation were a farce, why does basically every person who was on the Trump campaign team have ties to the Kremlin?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/
Why did Trump not report anything to the FBI after being informed that Russia may attempt to infiltrate his campaign?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-warned-trump-2016-russians-would-try-infiltrate-his-campaign-n830596
Why did Trump fire Comey and tried to fire Mueller to stop the Russia investigation?
WaPo article about what we've publicly learned thus far (and firing of Comey)
When Trump tried to fire Mueller
If there's nothing to hide, then he shouldn't worry. But innocent people don't actively try to obstruct justice in an investigation into them.
Why did Trump supposedly allow Russia to prevent Romney (who was a hardliner against Russia) from becoming Secretary of State, instead installing Tillerson (who was chummy with Putin)?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376746-russia-says-it-stopped-mitt-romney-from-becoming-secretary-of-state/
If there was no collusion/conspiracy/whatever tf you want to call it, why did the Trump campaign try to establish a back channel to the Kremlin?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-gathers-evidence-that-2016-seychelles-meeting-was-effort-to-establish-back-channel-to-kremlin/2018/03/07/b6a5fb8c-224b-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.476e6293d62c
Why did the Trump Organization negotiate with a sanctioned Russian bank in 2016?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/15/trump-organization-negotiated-with-sanctioned-russian-bank-in-2016
Why did Mueller subpoena the Trump Organization, demanding documents about Russia if there is no reasonable suspicion?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-organization-subpoena-mueller-russia.html
Trump can't maintain a position on anything...except Russia. That raises a few suspicions tbh. He's consistently hitting out against our allies/NATO, which is what Putin would want—a decrease in American influence around the world so Russia can swoop in to fill the vaccuum.
And yes, I do believe Russian propaganda influenced the election to favor Trump; it may not have been millions of Americans who fell for it, but it was definitely enough to swing the election—Trump won because of ~80,000 votes in 3 states. Too many of my fellow citizens are gullible as hell and deal in feels instead of reals. The same happened with Brexit in your country (never mind I didn't want Trump and you didn't want to remain, that's not the point).
There's no formal list for impeachable offenses (people holding office could theoretically be impeached for being left-handed). It only requires a simple majority in the House to impeach and 2/3 in the Senate to remove from office. Obstruction of justice will land him in hot water this coming January, though, should the House flip.
WOW .......
An 18 month investigation by congress has found no evidence, a joke of an independent investigation by Mueller is now interviewing 'the bloke who met with the guy who buys coffee in the same shop as a friend of Trump's dentist' in a desperate attempt to find something .....
Trump can't maintain a position on anything except Russia ... what the feck does that even mean ... I maintain a position on Arsenal Football Club does that make me a collaborator?
You quote a whole heap of feckin' newspaper articles, cause we all know they're never wrong, that's your evidence .... are you feckin' kidding?
by LMAO » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:08 am
DiamondGooner wrote:All of those links are lefty papers / orgs fishing.
Ties to the Kremlin ......... what sort of ties, they've spoken to a Russian in their life time?
I don't invest in headlines I want to see the inexplicable proof.
Biggest question ............ since Trump has been in power, what has he done to benefit Russia?
That is what is indication of guilt, so far I'm not seeing anything and this Russian thing is just witch hunting until someone shows me otherwise.
One question I want you to answer:
What propaganda did the Russians put out to sway votes? and be specific.
by DiamondGooner » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:34 pm
by UFGN » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:22 pm
by LMAO » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:08 am
DiamondGooner wrote:Russian hackers???
What?
This is ridiculous.
You have to do better than that.
Also again ........... how did Trump BENEFIT?
by LMAO » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:30 am
UFGN wrote:So Trump has wheeled out professional arsehole and war lover John Bolton to be his new National Security Advisor
I invite our American regulars to pop over to YouTube to watch Bolton being obliterated by one of my heroes, the late, great Mr Tony Benn MP
Let's see how many US troops draft-dodger Bolton has a hand in sending to war this time round....
(Btw any Trump apologists regretting calling Hillary a hawk yet?)
by DiamondGooner » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:06 am
LMAO wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Russian hackers???
What?
This is ridiculous.
You have to do better than that.
Also again ........... how did Trump BENEFIT?
Did you even bother to read what I linked?
The dots aren’t that hard to connect.
1. Russians created fake profiles on all three major social media sites (Facebook, Reddit, Twitter) .1a. Facebook: Fake groups sewed discord between the right and the left by taking both sides of the aisle, with many also aiming to hurt Clinton and bolster Trump at the same time.
1b. Reddit: r/the_donald is a cesspool of the alt-right, constantly spreading asinine propaganda and stirring hatred and violence. And what’s a big makeup of that cancerous subreddit? Russian bots, that peddle bs conspiracy theories and manipulate Reddit’s upvote/downvote system to get that cancer to the top (aka, the most visible posts); the bots are also noticeable in other subreddits.
1c. Twitter: @Ten_GOP was a Russian account made to look like the official Tenneessee GOP account. In total, there were over 50,000 accounts linked to Russia's election influence efforts.
2. The drivel on all three sites received views and people shared the Russian propaganda, leading to more people seeing and sharing, and so on.
3. The short-sighted Bernie Bros/Bernie or Bust crowd were disillusioned with Clinton—with many choosing to abstain from the election or wasting their vote on Jill Stein/Gary Johnson—even after Sanders came out in support of Clinton. Trump supporters hated Clinton anyway, and the propaganda succeeded in adding fuel to their already burning fire.
4. The Russian propaganda—likely aided by Cambridge Analytica knowing who to originally target to get the ball rolling—had the biggest effect in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, where Trump only won by 77,744 votes combined (44,292 in Pennsylvania, 22,748 in Wisconsin, and 10,704 in Michigan), and thus, the presidency. It’s not a huge logical leap to assume at least 77,744 people across those three states were influenced by and turned by the propaganda.4a. You’d have to go back to 1988 for the last time Pennsylvania went in favor of a Republican presidential candidate. Pennsylvania was at least D+2 in every presidential election since 1992.
4b. You’d have to go back to 1984 for the last time Wisconsin went in favor of a Republican presidential candidate. Other than 2000 (D+0.2) and 2004 (D+0.4), all elections were at least D+3.
4c. You’d have to go back to 1988 for the last time Michigan went in favor of a Republican presidential candidate. Michigan was at least D+3 in every presidential election since 1992.
4d. If it still isn’t clear, all three states were Democratic strongholds for longer than I’ve been alive. Without Russian influence in our election, Clinton likely wins those three states and secures the presidency with the electoral vote 278-260 in her favor. (Comey releasing the memo a week before the election due to Republican coercion would've been win moar if it wasn't released, and imo, Clinton would've won regardless of the memo if it wasn't for Russia.)
TL;DR: Trump won because a few glue sniffers fell for Russian propaganda.
If you want to keep your head buried in the sand and continue to ignore the big ass, flashing neon ‘X’ on the treasure map, then that’s your prerogative.
by Va-Va-Voom » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:19 am
