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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Tue May 26, 2020 10:25 pm

Not to sound as if I am making fun of the man but Biden finally emerged and looks terrible. Shuffles around, gets confused non stop. FFS yesterday he confidently predicted that he would beat Joe Biden... :shock:

What will he be like in a year or three? It's just not right that the Dems are putting the man through this, nor the country. That said the guy has been a liar for decades. His mental capabilities make that even harder to pull off.

Weird to watch Bernie Bros try to pin him down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=JvOjlfRpXHQ
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Fri May 29, 2020 5:56 am

Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Not big guns...just your fellow travelers that I assumed you might share a common concern for civil liberties and justice. Nope, I gave you far too much credit it seems. What ARE your core values anyway? You were all about Bernie, Hillary, now Biden. None make any sense in the "real world" unless it is simply party politics. Party/media politics sucks dude...they have you by the balls if you play that game. And you really rely on SNOPES and the whole "fact check" nonsense???? :rofll: That explains a whole lot. Pay attention for yourself dude. Employ some critical thinking.

I take in information from all over the map from the BBC to CNN to FOX, WAPO, WSJ, VOX and NYT to the Guardian and from Mate' to Madow and beyond. Then I ask WHY on every aspect as a filter while on the watch for just not bias but bias by exclusion. The stories that do not simply provide confirmation of an opinion but rather facts. That IS being informed and being able to decipher truth from BS.

WTF ever happened to classic liberalism? It's gone in a whirl of TDS and James Clapper lies.

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Your first paragraph says a lot about you tbh. Jimmy Dore is concerned for civil liberties and justice?! The guy who was caught being paid to lie for Assad and who peddled the Seth Rich conspiracy nonsense cares about civil liberties and justice? ffs the guy is a left-wing Alex Jones :rofll: And Max Blumenthal is a useful idiot who writes for RT and Sputnik, so yeah, he has no bias and definitely has America's best interests at heart when publishing his raff. But if your kink is conspiracy theory kooks, then have at it. It's 2020, I don't judge.

I've laid out my core values multiple times on here, not my fault you weren't paying attention the first hundred times. Go through this topic if you want to get up to speed. And I've made it abundantly clear that I'd vote for a soggy sandwich if it gets Trump out of the White House.

Congrats on using left and right sources and filtering out the BS, although you've come to some interesting conclusions. And I do employ critical thinking, such as when I asked you multiple to provide an explanation as to why if Rice lied (as you claim) to a frothing at the mouth GOP, why they didn't nail her for perjury or Clinton for witness tampering? Heck, talking about my critical thinking, you were never able to tell me what part of Bernie's platform was radical socialism since you painted him as a radical socialist.

wtf happened to your fight for the truth? Obama Derangement Syndrome has taken hold of you and warped your perception of reality, like with this Obamagate nonsense. Have you seen Rice's declassified email from a week ago? Where's the smoking gun, my man? You can criticize Obama for a shitload of things such as drone strikes on Americans, but resorting to fictitious material? Don't get lost in the sauce.
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Fri May 29, 2020 6:00 am

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-trumps-fight-with-obama-might-backfire/

I really hope Trump tries to make this Obama versus Trump. Obama is far more popular among independents. As Napoleon said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Sat May 30, 2020 12:35 am

Of course the Flynn-Kislyak phone transcripts get dumped on a Friday since they don't present Flynn in a good light :rofll:

Reminder of the charges:
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. MICHAEL T. FLYNN
During the interview, FLYNN falsely stated that he did not ask Russia's Ambassador to the United States ("Russian Ambassador") to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia. FLYNN also falsely stated that he did not remember a follow-up conversation in which the Russian Ambassador stated that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of FL YNN's request. (Page 2)

During the January 24 voluntary interview, FLYNN made additional false statements about calls he made to Russia and several other countries regarding a resolution submitted by Egypt to the United Nations Security Council on December 21, 2016. Specifically FLYNN falsely stated that he only asked the countries' positions on the vote, and that he did not request that any of the countries take any particular action on the resolution. FLYNN also falsely stated that the Russian Ambassador never described to him Russia's response to FLYNN's request regarding the resolution. (Page 4)


And the plea bargain Flynn willingly signed:
Flynn's Plea Bargain

And the phone transcripts:
Flynn-Kislyak Phone Transcripts from Dec. 23, 29, 31, Jan. 12, 19 (voicemail)
December 23, 2016 call: regarding the UN vote (begins on page 9 of the PDF) - but interestingly, the previous call Kislyak refers to hasn't been declassified :think:
December 29, 2016 call: regarding Russia's response to the UN vote and Flynn pleading for Russia to reciprocate and not escalate Obama's actions (begins on page 13 of the PDF)
December 31, 2016 call: regarding Russia's response to not escalating Obama's actions (begins on page 19 of the PDF)

Obamagate is dangerously close to having the life support plug pulled.
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:57 am

Biden has really grown on me the past couple weeks with his policy shifts leftward (though I expect him to move back to the center after the election) and coalition building with members throughout both wings of the Democratic Party. I was originally going to hold my nose to vote for him after he virtually locked up the nomination, but now I'm starting to come around to being proud to cast a vote for him come November.

Biden has been reminding America of how a president should lead. While Trump is hiding out in a bunker stoking tension from his phone, Biden is out meeting with protesters and listening to their grievances.
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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:57 pm

LMAO wrote:Biden has really grown on me the past couple weeks with his policy shifts leftward (though I expect him to move back to the center after the election) and coalition building with members throughout both wings of the Democratic Party. I was originally going to hold my nose to vote for him after he virtually locked up the nomination, but now I'm starting to come around to being proud to cast a vote for him come November.

Biden has been reminding America of how a president should lead. While Trump is hiding out in a bunker stoking tension from his phone, Biden is out meeting with protesters and listening to their grievances.


Funny.
Biden spent the last 2 months in his basement. Almost unseen. That is probably the only way he could improve his image.
Trump, for all his many faults, is at least trying to tackle the current domestic terrorism issue sweeping America. His sddress was spot on last night.

It certainly is not a good look for Biden's campaign to be talking about bailing out domestic terrorists from jail after they have been arrested.
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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:01 pm

LMAO wrote:Of course the Flynn-Kislyak phone transcripts get dumped on a Friday since they don't present Flynn in a good light :rofll:

Reminder of the charges:
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. MICHAEL T. FLYNN
During the interview, FLYNN falsely stated that he did not ask Russia's Ambassador to the United States ("Russian Ambassador") to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia. FLYNN also falsely stated that he did not remember a follow-up conversation in which the Russian Ambassador stated that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of FL YNN's request. (Page 2)

During the January 24 voluntary interview, FLYNN made additional false statements about calls he made to Russia and several other countries regarding a resolution submitted by Egypt to the United Nations Security Council on December 21, 2016. Specifically FLYNN falsely stated that he only asked the countries' positions on the vote, and that he did not request that any of the countries take any particular action on the resolution. FLYNN also falsely stated that the Russian Ambassador never described to him Russia's response to FLYNN's request regarding the resolution. (Page 4)


And the plea bargain Flynn willingly signed:
Flynn's Plea Bargain

And the phone transcripts:
Flynn-Kislyak Phone Transcripts from Dec. 23, 29, 31, Jan. 12, 19 (voicemail)
December 23, 2016 call: regarding the UN vote (begins on page 9 of the PDF) - but interestingly, the previous call Kislyak refers to hasn't been declassified :think:
December 29, 2016 call: regarding Russia's response to the UN vote and Flynn pleading for Russia to reciprocate and not escalate Obama's actions (begins on page 13 of the PDF)
December 31, 2016 call: regarding Russia's response to not escalating Obama's actions (begins on page 19 of the PDF)

Obamagate is dangerously close to having the life support plug pulled.


Flynn's family was threatened.
The FBI set him up (or elements within it).
There is nothing in the call transcripts that warranted any investigation and certainly not the ridiculous accusation of Flynn being a Russian agent.
Obama's administration spied on Trump's campaign and fostered a false Russian collusion narrative. That's now settled, not speculation.
What Obama knew and when is questionable - we just don;t know yet - but once the hearings start we'll learn more.
It's important to get to the bottom of the election interference and the continued surveillance during the transition and into Trump's presidency by the Obama Admistration so it can be stopped from happening again.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Yorkyblue » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:55 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
LMAO wrote:Biden has really grown on me the past couple weeks with his policy shifts leftward (though I expect him to move back to the center after the election) and coalition building with members throughout both wings of the Democratic Party. I was originally going to hold my nose to vote for him after he virtually locked up the nomination, but now I'm starting to come around to being proud to cast a vote for him come November.

Biden has been reminding America of how a president should lead. While Trump is hiding out in a bunker stoking tension from his phone, Biden is out meeting with protesters and listening to their grievances.


Funny.
Biden spent the last 2 months in his basement. Almost unseen. That is probably the only way he could improve his image.
Trump, for all his many faults, is at least trying to tackle the current domestic terrorism issue sweeping America. His sddress was spot on last night.

It certainly is not a good look for Biden's campaign to be talking about bailing out domestic terrorists from jail after they have been arrested.


Pretty much said the same thing to my wife earlier. Sleepy Joe has been nowhere to be seen but jumps out for political gain thats gonna backfire.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Yago » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:53 pm

Good speech today. Biden has been crushing it.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:47 am

Ok, I go off grid fishing for a week and all hell breaks loose. ANTIFA fascists need to be rounded up. Looters shot on sight and the Minneapolis cops involved hung. Biden and Pelosi can be buried alive...or dead. CNN, MSNBC, Anarchists, stupid socialist kids, white guilt shit heads, TDS infected c****:...f**k them all.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:48 am

They want a civil war? Bring it.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:49 am

Yorkyblue wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
LMAO wrote:Biden has really grown on me the past couple weeks with his policy shifts leftward (though I expect him to move back to the center after the election) and coalition building with members throughout both wings of the Democratic Party. I was originally going to hold my nose to vote for him after he virtually locked up the nomination, but now I'm starting to come around to being proud to cast a vote for him come November.

Biden has been reminding America of how a president should lead. While Trump is hiding out in a bunker stoking tension from his phone, Biden is out meeting with protesters and listening to their grievances.


Funny.
Biden spent the last 2 months in his basement. Almost unseen. That is probably the only way he could improve his image.
Trump, for all his many faults, is at least trying to tackle the current domestic terrorism issue sweeping America. His sddress was spot on last night.

It certainly is not a good look for Biden's campaign to be talking about bailing out domestic terrorists from jail after they have been arrested.


Pretty much said the same thing to my wife earlier. Sleepy Joe has been nowhere to be seen but jumps out for political gain thats gonna backfire.


Yup. This will end the Dem party as we know it.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:51 am

Biden does grow on people....like a STD rash.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:54 am

Yago wrote:Good speech today. Biden has been crushing it.



The only thing he crushes are his own testicles that sag to his knees when he sits on them.
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Re: American Politics

Postby LMAO » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:47 am

The party that was against surveillance of Trump's campaign: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6935297/LEOPOLD-DEA-Memo-George-Floyd-Protests.pdf

But the Democrats are the fascists.

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