Le Chat wrote:
so someone who doesn't agree with gay marriage is a nazi now?
by JohnDuval » Fri May 24, 2013 12:28 pm
Le Chat wrote:
by ThereIsBearCüm » Fri May 24, 2013 12:30 pm
JohnDuval wrote:Le Chat wrote:
so someone who doesn't agree with gay marriage is a nazi now?
by JohnDuval » Fri May 24, 2013 12:33 pm
ThereIsBearCum wrote:JohnDuval wrote:Le Chat wrote:
so someone who doesn't agree with gay marriage is a nazi now?
No. They are unquestionably a bigot though.
by ThereIsBearCüm » Fri May 24, 2013 12:35 pm
JohnDuval wrote:ThereIsBearCum wrote:JohnDuval wrote:Le Chat wrote:
so someone who doesn't agree with gay marriage is a nazi now?
No. They are unquestionably a bigot though.
seems to be the mentality of some people, if they don't go along with the way they want they are branded a bigot
by UFGN » Fri May 24, 2013 12:36 pm
by ThereIsBearCüm » Fri May 24, 2013 12:36 pm
Kyle? wrote:Le Chat wrote:Kyle? wrote:I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?
Slavery and sexism were also "traditions" should we have kept them too.
Different things entirely. Slavery is abhorrent, and thankfully we saw sense to end it, and sexism is hardly comparable.
by JohnDuval » Fri May 24, 2013 12:40 pm
by JohnDuval » Fri May 24, 2013 12:41 pm
ThereIsBearCum wrote:Kyle? wrote:Le Chat wrote:Kyle? wrote:I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?
Slavery and sexism were also "traditions" should we have kept them too.
Different things entirely. Slavery is abhorrent, and thankfully we saw sense to end it, and sexism is hardly comparable.
In 2 centuries, people will be saying "marriage inequality is abhorrent, and thankfully we saw sense to end it".
by Kyle? » Fri May 24, 2013 12:42 pm
ThereIsBearCum wrote:Kyle? wrote:kronickaos wrote:Kyle? wrote:I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?
I keep seeing the term "devalues" used...
How does Bob and Steve or Lucy and Sara getting married reduce the worth of your marriage? Your marriage, my marriage, and anyone else's marriage is what I, YOU, and THEY make out of the marriage and there's nobody in this world that can change that based on their sexual preference.
I'm thinking of the kids here. As i'm not married, and have no intention of ever getting married (i actually like having money), i'm thinking about life if someone's parents had gone batshit crazy in this scenario. If your mother had married another woman, it would be odd, and you would likely have been bullied for it. If your dad had married another guy, same scenario, same outcome.
If same sex people get married, then it's going to mess families in general up. You try explaining to an inquisitive 8 year old why 2 men are getting married, rather than the traditional male and female.
Because they love each other. Is it really that hard?
And your first point is victim blaming. The problem is that people are bullying the kid, not that the kid has same sex parents.
by ThereIsBearCüm » Fri May 24, 2013 12:48 pm
JohnDuval wrote:I don't think gay people should be allowed to get married, civil partnership fine. If that makes me a bigot, nazi, or right wing looney then fine
by UFGN » Fri May 24, 2013 12:48 pm
by ThereIsBearCüm » Fri May 24, 2013 12:48 pm
JohnDuval wrote:ThereIsBearCum wrote:Kyle? wrote:Le Chat wrote:Kyle? wrote:I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?
Slavery and sexism were also "traditions" should we have kept them too.
Different things entirely. Slavery is abhorrent, and thankfully we saw sense to end it, and sexism is hardly comparable.
In 2 centuries, people will be saying "marriage inequality is abhorrent, and thankfully we saw sense to end it".
You cant compare slavery with gay marriage ffs
by Popey » Fri May 24, 2013 12:49 pm
Kyle? wrote:ThereIsBearCum wrote:Kyle? wrote:kronickaos wrote:Kyle? wrote:I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?
I keep seeing the term "devalues" used...
How does Bob and Steve or Lucy and Sara getting married reduce the worth of your marriage? Your marriage, my marriage, and anyone else's marriage is what I, YOU, and THEY make out of the marriage and there's nobody in this world that can change that based on their sexual preference.
I'm thinking of the kids here. As i'm not married, and have no intention of ever getting married (i actually like having money), i'm thinking about life if someone's parents had gone batshit crazy in this scenario. If your mother had married another woman, it would be odd, and you would likely have been bullied for it. If your dad had married another guy, same scenario, same outcome.
If same sex people get married, then it's going to mess families in general up. You try explaining to an inquisitive 8 year old why 2 men are getting married, rather than the traditional male and female.
Because they love each other. Is it really that hard?
And your first point is victim blaming. The problem is that people are bullying the kid, not that the kid has same sex parents.
So what if they love each other? They're still going to ruin their kids lives anyway. The law says they can't get married, and if the House of Lords has any sense, it'll stay that way. And supporting this viewpoint doesn't make me a bigot, it makes me sensible and old fashioned.
by JohnDuval » Fri May 24, 2013 12:51 pm
ThereIsBearCum wrote:JohnDuval wrote:I don't think gay people should be allowed to get married, civil partnership fine. If that makes me a bigot, nazi, or right wing looney then fine
So you admit you're a proud bigot. Your opinion is irrelevant then.
by Youngie » Fri May 24, 2013 12:51 pm