Gay Marriage

[UFGN]

[="Royal Gooner"]I'm opposed to it. I object because there is no need for it other than just tokenism as they already have the same legal rights in the civil partnership (which is already slanged up as "marriage" anyway.[/quote]

Its funny how I guessed exactly which user might pop up against this. The ultra right-wing looney.

Anyway.

Reasons are very simple. In an aparthide (sp), blacks had swimming pools, buses and hospitals, but they werent the same as white ones. They were different, and they were usually not as good.

"Marriage" is not owned by christians or anyone else. Nobody has the right to dictate to others what marriage is according to their religeous beliefs, and then use the law to try to force through their viiews. Not any more.

It will have absolutely no effect on existing or future hetrosexual marriages, and churches will not be forced to marry gay couples.

Lastly, because its simply putting to an and for ever the last major bit of legal discrimination we have in this country. To say to a gay couple, "we recognise your relationship, you can have rights, but you are not equal, your love is worth less than a streight couple's" is wrong. Simply wrong.

[ivan itchybum]

Like my take on pretty much everything, I don't give a shit. Let people do what they want to do, who am I or anyone else for that matter to tell others what they can and can't do with their lives.

+1000

[Kyle?]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

[JohnDuval]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

I agree. I dont believe it makes you an "ultra right wing looney" if you think this as well

[Youngie]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

Slavery and sexism were also "traditions" should we have kept them too.

[Kyle?]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

Slavery and sexism were also "traditions" should we have kept them too.

Different things entirely. Slavery is abhorrent, and thankfully we saw sense to end it, and sexism is hardly comparable.

[Youngie]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

I agree. I dont believe it makes you an "ultra right wing looney" if you think this as well

I hate all these right and left terms. I'll vote UKIP for some of their polices, but i am pro gay marriage. Lets not all be pigeon holed ffs.

[kronickaos]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

I keep seeing the term "devalues" used...

How does Bob and Steve or Lucy and Sara getting married reduce the worth of your marriage? Your marriage, my marriage, and anyone else's marriage is what I, YOU, and THEY make out of the marriage and there's nobody in this world that can change that based on their sexual preference.

[ThereIsBearCüm]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

So two people who love each other getting married devalues the concept of marriage, but getting a divorce 3 hours after getting married doesn't?

[Kyle?]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

I keep seeing the term "devalues" used...

How does Bob and Steve or Lucy and Sara getting married reduce the worth of your marriage? Your marriage, my marriage, and anyone else's marriage is what I, YOU, and THEY make out of the marriage and there's nobody in this world that can change that based on their sexual preference.

I'm thinking of the kids here. As i'm not married, and have no intention of ever getting married (i actually like having money), i'm thinking about life if someone's parents had gone batshit crazy in this scenario. If your mother had married another woman, it would be odd, and you would likely have been bullied for it. If your dad had married another guy, same scenario, same outcome.

If same sex people get married, then it's going to mess families in general up. You try explaining to an inquisitive 8 year old why 2 men are getting married, rather than the traditional male and female.

[UFGN]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

I agree. I dont believe it makes you an "ultra right wing looney" if you think this as well

Thats not the only reason I called RG that. If theres any opinion to be had he will be to the right of the Daily Mail on the issue. Thatcher, UKIP, Europe, you name it.

It doesnt devalue anything. And im sorry to say it but if you cant support this, then you are "against gays" to an extent. You dont want gay people to be truely equal. This is simply putting things right at last.

Can you imagine if mixed race couples werent allowed to be married and had to instead have a "civil partnership"? Noone would stand for it.

[Youngie]

[Zedie]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

So two people who love each other getting married devalues the concept of marriage, but getting a divorce 3 hours after getting married doesn't?

A 50% divorce rate amongst hetrosexual couples doesnt seem to back the 'devalue' argument either.

[Kyle?]

So i make a vaild point and you reply with a childish image. Really mature

[ThereIsBearCüm]

I disagree with this, just because it's a bit daft and opportunistic. A gay marriage devalues the concept of marriage in general, and whilst i have nothing against gay people, surely they should have been happy with a civil partnership, which is basically marriage in all but name anyway? Why feel the need to upset all the traditional marriages?

I keep seeing the term "devalues" used...

How does Bob and Steve or Lucy and Sara getting married reduce the worth of your marriage? Your marriage, my marriage, and anyone else's marriage is what I, YOU, and THEY make out of the marriage and there's nobody in this world that can change that based on their sexual preference.

I'm thinking of the kids here. As i'm not married, and have no intention of ever getting married (i actually like having money), i'm thinking about life if someone's parents had gone batshit crazy in this scenario. If your mother had married another woman, it would be odd, and you would likely have been bullied for it. If your dad had married another guy, same scenario, same outcome.

If same sex people get married, then it's going to mess families in general up. You try explaining to an inquisitive 8 year old why 2 men are getting married, rather than the traditional male and female.

Because they love each other. Is it really that hard?

And your first point is victim blaming. The problem is that people are bullying the kid, not that the kid has same sex parents.