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Despite the rich, is there a demographic in this country the Tories haven't pissed off?

They've wound just about everybody up.

The frustrating thing is that if David Miliband or Andy Burnham were Labour leader, the election would be won by labour easily.

Who are the tories? Are they the same as labour?

Pudpop wrote:Who are the tories? Are they the same as labour?

Conservatives. Haters of the poor.

I think from my point of view, a Lib/Lab coalition would be best ideologically. I agree with aspects of both parties' policies.

UFGN wrote:I think from my point of view, a Lib/Lab coalition would be best ideologically. I agree with aspects of both parties' policies.

Agreed.

And agreed as well about your point about D. Miliband/ Burnham. This election is Labour's for the taking if they weren't so effing incompetent.

I'm glad David's not in-charge. Good to have a non-Blairite in-charge

Ed Milliband, for all his faults, does admit the mistakes Labour made in the past

UFGN wrote:

GoonerAlexis wrote:

Yago wrote:

GoonerAlexis wrote:

Yago wrote:When are you guys voting?

Also, I don't know much about UK politics but after reading a bit about it, liberal democrats seem like the best one by far. I guess I'd vote for them if I lived in the UK. Green look ok too but they're kind of small... (?)

You do realise the Lib Dem "policies" are only on paper, right?

Or else they wouldn't have enjoyed this lovely Tory coalition?

I didn't when I wrote that. So they broke their promises (not that bad tbh, everyone does) AND they voted for/against something, basically betraying their own ideals (and their voters)? Yeah, how f***ing stupid can you be. That's a shame :/ Still would consider voting for them (or Green), beacuse the alternatives look bad to me, but they shot themselves in the foot with that one. Good thing I don't have that decision to make.

Not just betrayed an ideal, they effing campaigned on that promise. Thousands of students voted for them, just on this issue. That's an entire generation of voters lost

They were prevented from delivering it by the tories. Don't play dumb please. Its quite obvious that a LibDem majority government wouldn't have raised fees.

But they could have said no. They had the power and numbers to defeat the Tories in the vote and the Tories would have had to have taken it because without the Lib-Dems they could not stay in government. Yet they chose to betray their principles and vote for it. That is why the Lie-Dems will never get anywhere near government again.

And before you say it, I am not voting Tory again after they stabbed their core support in the back.

Royal Gooner wrote:

UFGN wrote:

GoonerAlexis wrote:

Yago wrote:

GoonerAlexis wrote:

Yago wrote:When are you guys voting?

Also, I don't know much about UK politics but after reading a bit about it, liberal democrats seem like the best one by far. I guess I'd vote for them if I lived in the UK. Green look ok too but they're kind of small... (?)

You do realise the Lib Dem "policies" are only on paper, right?

Or else they wouldn't have enjoyed this lovely Tory coalition?

I didn't when I wrote that. So they broke their promises (not that bad tbh, everyone does) AND they voted for/against something, basically betraying their own ideals (and their voters)? Yeah, how f***ing stupid can you be. That's a shame :/ Still would consider voting for them (or Green), beacuse the alternatives look bad to me, but they shot themselves in the foot with that one. Good thing I don't have that decision to make.

Not just betrayed an ideal, they effing campaigned on that promise. Thousands of students voted for them, just on this issue. That's an entire generation of voters lost

They were prevented from delivering it by the tories. Don't play dumb please. Its quite obvious that a LibDem majority government wouldn't have raised fees.

But they could have said no. They had the power and numbers to defeat the Tories in the vote and the Tories would have had to have taken it because without the Lib-Dems they could not stay in government. Yet they chose to betray their principles and vote for it. That is why the Lie-Dems will never get anywhere near government again.

And before you say it, I am not voting Tory again after they stabbed their core support in the back.

Since you have previously boasted about being a troll you can get bent if you think I'm wasting my time discussing politics with you.

Since every vote counts, I am not voting

UFGN wrote:

Royal Gooner wrote:

UFGN wrote:

GoonerAlexis wrote:

Yago wrote:

GoonerAlexis wrote:

Yago wrote:When are you guys voting?

Also, I don't know much about UK politics but after reading a bit about it, liberal democrats seem like the best one by far. I guess I'd vote for them if I lived in the UK. Green look ok too but they're kind of small... (?)

You do realise the Lib Dem "policies" are only on paper, right?

Or else they wouldn't have enjoyed this lovely Tory coalition?

I didn't when I wrote that. So they broke their promises (not that bad tbh, everyone does) AND they voted for/against something, basically betraying their own ideals (and their voters)? Yeah, how f***ing stupid can you be. That's a shame :/ Still would consider voting for them (or Green), beacuse the alternatives look bad to me, but they shot themselves in the foot with that one. Good thing I don't have that decision to make.

Not just betrayed an ideal, they effing campaigned on that promise. Thousands of students voted for them, just on this issue. That's an entire generation of voters lost

They were prevented from delivering it by the tories. Don't play dumb please. Its quite obvious that a LibDem majority government wouldn't have raised fees.

But they could have said no. They had the power and numbers to defeat the Tories in the vote and the Tories would have had to have taken it because without the Lib-Dems they could not stay in government. Yet they chose to betray their principles and vote for it. That is why the Lie-Dems will never get anywhere near government again.

And before you say it, I am not voting Tory again after they stabbed their core support in the back.

Since you have previously boasted about being a troll you can get bent if you think I'm wasting my time discussing politics with you.

The fact that you decide to go straight to make an insult instead of actually discussing the point shows that you are not worthy of discussing politics with.

If I wanted to go for an insult, surely I would call you either a thick troll or neo-fascist scum, seeing as you are definitely either one or the other or both. Just saying

I think that people looking in on this will see that you are just going for insults instead of wishing to have a discussion.

Royal Gooner wrote:I think that people looking in on this will see that you are just going for insults instead of wishing to have a discussion.

People who don't know your disgusting history of right-wing bile and hate on this forum might think that, yes.

The Lib Dems could have actually said no, I'm sure they've stopped a few policies over the last 5 years, but what most people don't like is that those policies could never have been passed without Lib Dem help