Who will you vote for in 2015?

[UFGN]

No. 17 per cent is the amount. But i doubt they will get 15. Its no biggie ive donated before, (Not that much though!) but i'll make it a £100 postal order in 2015 if they poll 17%

[Royal Gooner]

I actually thought the Lib Dems were alright until they betrayed their own members, sided with the Tories for very little gain for their own and propped David Cameron up for a term. Nick Clegg has set them back decades, almost like he was a Tory plant all along.

Or maybe he had been smoking at the time, some of those Dutch cigarettes, the type that are illegal in this country? Which is probable since he is a smoker.

[Youngie]

No. 17 per cent is the amount. But i doubt they will get 15. Its no biggie ive donated before, (Not that much though!) but i'll make it a £100 postal order in 2015 if they poll 17%

Fair enough, Trina vote UKIP and take some off UFGN's money

I'll be gutted now if they get 16.9%

It will be high though. Obviously there not going to contend the leadership but the number of supporters is growing daily. If only AV would of been approved this country would be salvageable.

[UFGN]

As much as I cant stand UKip i agree with you on AV. I wrote an article/thread on here years ago about it. Look it up on the search option if you want. I cant link it on this phone.

[Youngie]

As much as I cant stand UKip i agree with you on AV. I wrote an article/thread on here years ago about it. Look it up on the search option if you want. I cant link it on this phone.

here it is
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19335&p=558165&hilit=alternative+vote#p558165

First past the post just favours the big 2, We'll never get anything done if they cant be challenged. I'll be surprised if the AV question comes up again for a long long time. We have the Lib dems to thank for messing that up.

[UFGN]

Thats not my thread mate.

[Youngie]

Thats not my thread mate.

Fair enough it First past the post vs AV though. Cant find an AV thread of yours

[Callum]

Not a fan.

Are you a fan of communism?

Don't be an idiot. Not supporting that bumbling fool Farage doesn't make me a communist.

Here, look - I can make irrational judgments too;

Are you a fan of firing squads and casual racism?

[Youngie]

Not a fan.

Are you a fan of communism?

Don't be an idiot. Not supporting that bumbling fool Farage doesn't make me a communist.

Here, look - I can make irrational judgments too;

Are you a fan of firing squads and casual racism?

The EU is a communist body. I was just wondering if you were pro EU, hence being pro communism.

[ThereIsBearCüm]

Not a fan.

Are you a fan of communism?

Don't be an idiot. Not supporting that bumbling fool Farage doesn't make me a communist.

Here, look - I can make irrational judgments too;

Are you a fan of firing squads and casual racism?

The EU is a communist body. I was just wondering if you were pro EU, hence being pro communism.

[Youngie]

No trolling, not sure if your within the EU or even have a stand point on it. If you researched it you would see it operates in a wholly communist way. The EU when formed not only adopted communist values but a number of supposedly "ex"-communist members. Their unashamed in their "true" founding, even their literature still embraces old communist overtones. A quick sample:-


Arts and Visual Communications (Europe4All textbook first published in 2010) by Sladjana Zunic, Sladjana Bajic, Anke Gardasevic and Helichrysum Vukicevic.


Poster for the European Commission. Note the communist symbol at the pinnacle of the star.

I'm sure if you did some research on the matter you would soon find out.

[UFGN]

The EU simply isnt a communist organisation. It just isnt. Stop this nonsense.

[Youngie]

The EU simply isnt a communist organisation. It just isnt. Stop this nonsense.

Think what you want. I could far deeper to drive home the point, but that would be a waste of time.You need to remember im not demanding you come around to my way of thinking. I'm merely putting my own opinion forward. I understand that politics is a divisive subject so we all have to tread carefully when discussing it. I'm glad this forum facilitates the exchange of ideas, however popular or unpopular they may be.

[UFGN]

Fair enough but what ever its idiology may or may not have been in the past, to suggest an organisation made up of entirely centre-right and centre-left governments is "communist" is like saying Red Rum was actually a greyhound because theres a rumour his great grandad once looked at a dog.

[Youngie]

Fair enough but what ever its idiology may or may not have been in the past, to suggest an organisation made up of entirely centre-right and centre-left governments is "communist" is like saying Red Rum was actually a greyhound because theres a rumour his great grandad once looked at a dog.

Like i said earlier, each to their own. I have no interest in trying to educate you on my opinion. Although if you wanted to read up on the the make-up of the EU i think you'd be surprised. Don't be getting fresh and or coming back hard at me bro, i shan't be drawn into an argument.

Back on topic

I think the 2015 election will be a labour win, that pretty much a certainty. The big question is whether they gain a majority to form a strong government, of that im not so sure. Im just hoping UKIP get a handful of MP's, the way its going i cant see that being an unrealistic dream.