Who will you vote for in 2015?

[ThereIsBearCüm]

No trolling, not sure if your within the EU or even have a stand point on it. If you researched it you would see it operates in a wholly communist way. The EU when formed not only adopted communist values but a number of supposedly "ex"-communist members. Their unashamed in their "true" founding, even their literature still embraces old communist overtones. A quick sample:-


Arts and Visual Communications (Europe4All textbook first published in 2010) by Sladjana Zunic, Sladjana Bajic, Anke Gardasevic and Helichrysum Vukicevic.


Poster for the European Commission. Note the communist symbol at the pinnacle of the star.

I'm sure if you did some research on the matter you would soon find out.

Oh wow... so very clearly stupid then. You're embarrassing yourself mate, you have absolutely no idea of what communism actually is.

[Youngie]

Fair enough but what ever its idiology may or may not have been in the past, to suggest an organisation made up of entirely centre-right and centre-left governments is "communist" is like saying Red Rum was actually a greyhound because theres a rumour his great grandad once looked at a dog.

Like i said earlier, each to their own. I have no interest in trying to educate you on my opinion. Although if you wanted to read up on the the make-up of the EU i think you'd be surprised. Don't be getting fresh and or coming back hard at me bro, i shan't be drawn into an argument.

Back on topic

I think the 2015 election will be a labour win, that pretty much a certainty. The big question is whether they gain a majority to form a strong government, of that im not so sure. Im just hoping UKIP get a handful of MP's, the way its going i cant see that being an unrealistic dream.

[ThereIsBearCüm]

It's not a matter of opinion though, it's a matter of fact. Saying the EU is communist is like saying 1+1=3. If you say it is, then you don't know what you're talking about.

[Youngie]

It's not a matter of opinion though, it's a matter of fact. Saying the EU is communist is like saying 1+1=3. If you say it is, then you don't know what you're talking about.

In my opinion the EU has communist undertones,[EDIT] tenancies, ambitions etc.

[ThereIsBearCüm]

Cool. That's not the same as them being communist.

[Youngie]

Cool. That's not the same as them being communist.

Their not 100% anything, of course their not. Their a mix of everything from socialist to federalist and yes also communist. So yes the EU isn't the new Soviet Union but it can be argued that they still act as a communists body.

http://www.unitypublishing.com/Government/EUSSR-US2.htm

[Herrpoja]

this guy

[CynicalGooner]

The EU is closer to socialist, or aspires to be. But there's a big difference between that and communism

[Youngie]

In 1914 the communist split, socialists split into Bolsheviks (communists) and Mensheviks (socialists)

Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning. Socialism grows directly out of capitalism; it is the first form of the new society. Communism is a further development or "higher stage" of socialism.

[StLGooner]

Please keep the debate civil, and refrain from name calling. No need to call people stupid if you don't agree. Thanks.

[Royal Gooner]

No trolling, not sure if your within the EU or even have a stand point on it. If you researched it you would see it operates in a wholly communist way. The EU when formed not only adopted communist values but a number of supposedly "ex"-communist members. Their unashamed in their "true" founding, even their literature still embraces old communist overtones. A quick sample:-


Arts and Visual Communications (Europe4All textbook first published in 2010) by Sladjana Zunic, Sladjana Bajic, Anke Gardasevic and Helichrysum Vukicevic.


Poster for the European Commission. Note the communist symbol at the pinnacle of the star.

I'm sure if you did some research on the matter you would soon find out.

Oh wow... so very clearly stupid then. You're embarrassing yourself mate, you have absolutely no idea of what communism actually is.

The thing that I noticed is that all the symbols are of faiths apart from the hammer and sickle. I do wonder why they would stick a political symbol in the middle of a number of religious symbols.

[Youngie]

No trolling, not sure if your within the EU or even have a stand point on it. If you researched it you would see it operates in a wholly communist way. The EU when formed not only adopted communist values but a number of supposedly "ex"-communist members. Their unashamed in their "true" founding, even their literature still embraces old communist overtones. A quick sample:-


Arts and Visual Communications (Europe4All textbook first published in 2010) by Sladjana Zunic, Sladjana Bajic, Anke Gardasevic and Helichrysum Vukicevic.


Poster for the European Commission. Note the communist symbol at the pinnacle of the star.

I'm sure if you did some research on the matter you would soon find out.

Oh wow... so very clearly stupid then. You're embarrassing yourself mate, you have absolutely no idea of what communism actually is.

The thing that I noticed is that all the symbols are of faiths apart from the hammer and sickle. I do wonder why they would stick a political symbol in the middle of a number of religious symbols.

I found that weird too.

The hammer and sickle is as, if not more horrific than swastika was. There were more people put to death under communist regimes than by any other political force in the history of mankind. You think the EU would have been sensitive to this, obviously not.

[ClockEnd Mark]

Went to pick my son up from work the other night and he was the only English person there, out of about 30 odd workers..

So i`ll be voting bnp or whoever it is now.

[Youngie]

Went to pick my son up from work the other night and he was the only English person there, out of about 30 odd workers..

So i`ll be voting bnp or whoever it is now.

[Sims]

Went to pick my son up from work the other night and he was the only English person there, out of about 30 odd workers..

So i`ll be voting bnp or whoever it is now.

Hahahaha what the f**k.