British Politics

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

I have a problem with broken promises - irrespective. If it was a stupid/bad manifesto pledge then its clear it was put there to entice voters and then you turn around and say we are not doing it. If that isn't total dishonesty please tell me what is?!

All the shit the tory filth did and you had barely anything to say about it, save a tiny number of headlind issues. You've whinged about this government about as much in one year as you did in the whole time the tories were in power. Breathtaking hypocrisy and bias.

It was a stupid fking idea is all it was. Full unfair dismissal rights on day one would cause obvious problems. That's why its been removed. Unlike the previous lot however, this government are making significant improvements to workers rights

Could someone please explain the core differences in any UK government policy since Blair took office? It has been a case of managed decline.

It is hard to define Labour as the party of the working man any longer, nor the Conservatives as the party of economic growth much less traditional conservative values.

What is the British economy about in truth? London bankers taking their cut of foreign generated wealth. The energy sector has been gutted by "net zero" policies that have no effect on climate, the manufacturing base is no longer viable. Ag is under attack. Mass immigration is obviously a net minus in terms of wages and culture. The current trope about "suicide by empathy" applies to the west as a whole sadly. But empathy never extends to average man it seems...

[UFGN]

I have a problem with broken promises - irrespective. If it was a stupid/bad manifesto pledge then its clear it was put there to entice voters and then you turn around and say we are not doing it. If that isn't total dishonesty please tell me what is?!

All the shit the tory filth did and you had barely anything to say about it, save a tiny number of headlind issues. You've whinged about this government about as much in one year as you did in the whole time the tories were in power. Breathtaking hypocrisy and bias.

It was a stupid fking idea is all it was. Full unfair dismissal rights on day one would cause obvious problems. That's why its been removed. Unlike the previous lot however, this government are making significant improvements to workers rights

Could someone please explain the core differences in any UK government policy since Blair took office? It has been a case of managed decline.

It is hard to define Labour as the party of the working man any longer, nor the Conservatives as the party of economic growth much less traditional conservative values.

What is the British economy about in truth? London bankers taking their cut of foreign generated wealth. The energy sector has been gutted by "net zero" policies that have no effect on climate, the manufacturing base is no longer viable. Ag is under attack. Mass immigration is obviously a net minus in terms of wages and culture. The current trope about "suicide by empathy" applies to the west as a whole sadly. But empathy never extends to average man it seems...

Tories strip working people of their working rights to favour business

Labour are quite reliable at correcting that issue by restoring workers rights

Tories rig the tax system to grossly favour big business over both small businesses and working people. This has resulted in a hemorrhaging of tax income from retail, leisure and other industries. Small businesses used to pay their taxes or end up in court. The large businesses which have replaced them, do not pay tax.

Labour make noises about this but fail to address it adequately.

Both parties take part in a multi decade long, frog boiling exercise which has eroded civil rights of individuals, especially but not limited to criminal defence rights and police powers

Farage if he were to get in, a deeply sinister and authoritarian ex City banker, would do all of the above but probably worse

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

So we agree that both major parties are basically the same in terms of policies and results?

I am no longer British, so have no dog in the fight save loving the country. But as with American politics when the political class works against the citizenry they get dumped. I am not enamored with Farage by any means, but he does have the working class vote it seems. If things are going to hell based on governance that does not respond to the voters then why not switch? Trump simply adopted Tea Party stances and the left pushed most voters into agreeing but that was an internal GOP revolution. UK politics more lends itself to new parties such as Reform or Greens. It is an interesting watch from here, as is the reaction to it all by my old mates who have often switched their votes from party to party. That is only logical on their part.

But I fear you are stuck in the 80's in terms of what you think each party represents. Workers in the North and Midlands certainly have left Labour to the Champaign BBC boomer liberals and the Tories have simply caved to the left. Traditional Conservatives such as Kentish Thatcherites are reevaluating their votes. Farmers and rural folk are moving to Reform in droves. Socialists like Galloway are now literally exiled and detrained as terrorists.

There are three major parties now, and it remains to be seen which regains or gains the trust of the people. Reform has the lead, but has no roster of candidates yet. So will that party be unified or fall at the first hurdle? I don't know but for the sake of Britain someone had best get it together.

[UFGN]

Actually the best solution for Britain would be the Liberal Democrats but they have been so roundly demonised by the Right wing press that they can not be heard over the noise.

Much more people backed centre left wing parties at the last election than right wing ones

I hope for a strong resurgence of the Conservatives so that they and Reform eat each other at the polls.

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

Two quick questions...what is the "right wing" press in the UK? GB News, the Telegraph and Talk TV? And what specific policies have the SDs proposed that have been opposed by the right?

Seems to me that informed voters don't need to be led by the nose to form opinions. That is why US voters rejected MSM and voted their experiences last election. To simply dismiss the working class as dolts for leaving Labour and rejecting Conservatives misses the reality I fear. If Reform does not follow through they will not be trusted either. If the SD's don't reflect the policies that the majority want enacted then they will continue to struggle.

The polls I have seen show Reform at 31% and the other parties below 20%. If the Conservatives remain as a minority in Parliament and oppose Reform's policies assuming Reform wins then they might well be damning themselves to diminishing relevance. Interesting watch for sure,