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Official request has been made to place Trump on Mount Rushmore to join George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln.
If the economy thrives and the Gaza and Ukraine wars are ended, i think it's probably deserved it if were approved and happens.

[TedLasso]

DOJ says actually nothing fishy about Epstein, he didnt even have a client list, and his death wasn’t suspicious at ALL

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The Epstein situation is interesting.
My conclusion to it is that so many people are involved on both sides of the political landscape that revealing the client list would be devastating to Govt and industry.
The Democrats held on to it and tried to hide files and now the Republicans are doing the same.
Mutually assured destruction

[TedLasso]

Makes you wonder what else Dementia Don is lying about, no?

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

The Epstein situation is interesting.
My conclusion to it is that so many people are involved on both sides of the political landscape that revealing the client list would be devastating to Govt and industry.
The Democrats held on to it and tried to hide files and now the Republicans are doing the same.
Mutually assured destruction

IMO, it comes down to Israel's role in our intel agencies and their political funding along with who may be involved on both sides. Not simply both sides, but how many Western leaders and governments could actually fall? To simply fall back on "Trump is on the list" is lazy IMO just as claiming it is to cover for Clinton. . Trump could well may be on a list, but If that was THE issue the list would have been out years ago. Epstein's activities go back long before Trump was in politics. Nasty business. MI6, CIA, Mossad plus many others have to be involved.

Maybe the bandage is too stuck to rip off with the world in turmoil? Maybe it would be best to let it all bleed? Or maybe the stakes are far higher than we know?

I am now a revolutionary so I want it out now.

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

Interesting that Comey and Brenan are finally under investigation.

[Jedi]

Finally, some good noise from this administration regarding Ukraine.

Wasted a lot of time with imaginary peace talks that were never going to happen, but now they're finally switching to what they should've been doing all along—arming Ukraine to the teeth.

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

Finally, some good noise from this administration regarding Ukraine.

Wasted a lot of time with imaginary peace talks that were never going to happen, but now they're finally switching to what they should've been doing all along—arming Ukraine to the teeth.

Ukraine cannot win no matter what, but Russia could. Weapons do not retake territory, men on the ground do and there are no more men.

This is Putin's Vietnam in a way. He is stuck, not yet willing to commit fully but not willing to quit. If the west forces his hand he faces a political bloodbath or perhaps he strikes Berlin and tries NATO.

A win for the world is to avoid a nuclear exchange. Trump certainly misread Putin's resolve. Maybe Putin has done the same with Trump? The west has also ignored that the Russian people are all in on the war effort.

It grinds on.

[Jedi]

A win for the world is for Putin to be overthrown and be publicly hanged in the Red Square. There is no Ukraine losing because it is a clear red line for Europe and Europe (and NATO) would be drawn into direct conflict with Russia long before that happens. We're not in 2022.

The "Putin strikes Berlin" crap is nonsense. It is for closeted homosexuals who fetishize tinpot inbred monkey dictators. Any strike against NATO ends with Russia getting balkanized. Let them trigger Article 5 if they want total death for Russia as a state and for its people, whether it is by conventional or nuclear war. It won't happen.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

A win for the world is for Putin to be overthrown and be publicly hanged in the Red Square. There is no Ukraine losing because it is a clear red line for Europe and Europe (and NATO) would be drawn into direct conflict with Russia long before that happens. We're not in 2022.

The "Putin strikes Berlin" crap is nonsense. It is for closeted homosexuals who fetishize tinpot inbred monkey dictators. Any strike against NATO ends with Russia getting balkanized. Let them trigger Article 5 if they want total death for Russia as a state and for its people, whether it is by conventional or nuclear war. It won't happen.

Since the end of the Cold War, all NATO has been good for is bombing small nations that can't retaliate. It is not a deterrent any more. Putin isn't going to be brought to justice any more than George W Bush will be. That's the whole point of having nukes.

3 years in, the member states have shown their hand; their commitment to Ukraine is pretty much to let the Ukrainians try to hold them off with NATO armaments alone. That isn't sustainable, and everybody knows it. The entire western world is facing high inflation, border crises, unaffordable retirement and economic uncertainty, made worse by the billionnaire class making daily threats to replace them with AI.

The Cold War was won when western governments made efforts to create a decent standard of living in their societies. Free-market neoliberalism has wiped that out. There is zero public appetite for spending billions to push themselves further into wars against Russia, Iran and China. Europe can ignore public opinion for now, but not forever. They will leave Ukraine to the wolves, just as the US slowly abandoned South Vietnam when facing the risk of domestic revolution in the '60s.

Putin doesn't have to strike a NATO nation to destabilize the alliance. He can simply start nibbling away at NATO's obvious weak spots like Turkey and Hungary. Kick Turkey out and they'll be hosting Russian and Chinese airbases within months, if Hungary doesn't veto an expulsion to begin with.

I don't know what the future holds, but it's safe to say the international order of the Cold War era is well and truly gone.

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

A win for the world is for Putin to be overthrown and be publicly hanged in the Red Square. There is no Ukraine losing because it is a clear red line for Europe and Europe (and NATO) would be drawn into direct conflict with Russia long before that happens. We're not in 2022.

The "Putin strikes Berlin" crap is nonsense. It is for closeted homosexuals who fetishize tinpot inbred monkey dictators. Any strike against NATO ends with Russia getting balkanized. Let them trigger Article 5 if they want total death for Russia as a state and for its people, whether it is by conventional or nuclear war. It won't happen.

Since the end of the Cold War, all NATO has been good for is bombing small nations that can't retaliate. It is not a deterrent any more. Putin isn't going to be brought to justice any more than George W Bush will be. That's the whole point of having nukes.

3 years in, the member states have shown their hand; their commitment to Ukraine is pretty much to let the Ukrainians try to hold them off with NATO armaments alone. That isn't sustainable, and everybody knows it. The entire western world is facing high inflation, border crises, unaffordable retirement and economic uncertainty, made worse by the billionnaire class making daily threats to replace them with AI.

The Cold War was won when western governments made efforts to create a decent standard of living in their societies. Free-market neoliberalism has wiped that out. There is zero public appetite for spending billions to push themselves further into wars against Russia, Iran and China. Europe can ignore public opinion for now, but not forever. They will leave Ukraine to the wolves, just as the US slowly abandoned South Vietnam when facing the risk of domestic revolution in the '60s.

Putin doesn't have to strike a NATO nation to destabilize the alliance. He can simply start nibbling away at NATO's obvious weak spots like Turkey and Hungary. Kick Turkey out and they'll be hosting Russian and Chinese airbases within months, if Hungary doesn't veto an expulsion to begin with.

I don't know what the future holds, but it's safe to say the international order of the Cold War era is well and truly gone.

Agreed.

The fall of the USSR was opportunity squandered and now the west seems to think that regime change is still the answer.

Corner a mad dog like Russia with big teeth and be surprised that it bites? Playing nukes when you don't have any is to speak of is silly, especially when the guy you claim is a fascist Nazi is the one who can actually protect you. UK, Canada, EU take note.

[Pat Rice in Short Shorts]

A win for the world is for Putin to be overthrown and be publicly hanged in the Red Square. There is no Ukraine losing because it is a clear red line for Europe and Europe (and NATO) would be drawn into direct conflict with Russia long before that happens. We're not in 2022.

The "Putin strikes Berlin" crap is nonsense. It is for closeted homosexuals who fetishize tinpot inbred monkey dictators. Any strike against NATO ends with Russia getting balkanized. Let them trigger Article 5 if they want total death for Russia as a state and for its people, whether it is by conventional or nuclear war. It won't happen.

You are actually delusional enough to think that Art 5 would be invoked by Trump over Ukraine? Or that NATO is going to commit ground forces to expel Russia? Not a chance. As I noted, the Russian people are in support of Putin. This over throw idea was scuppered three years ago when the CIA and others trotted it out along with the Putin is terminally ill propaganda.

What does a Ukrainian or Russian win actually look like to you? Crimea? The East? Russia dissolved?

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Agreed.

The fall of the USSR was opportunity squandered and now the west seems to think that regime change is still the answer.

Corner a mad dog like Russia with big teeth and be surprised that it bites? Playing nukes when you don't have any is to speak of is silly, especially when the guy you claim is a fascist Nazi is the one who can actually protect you. UK, Canada, EU take note.

If you mean DT, he isn't going to do anything. Europe is re-arming in the expectation that American Mobutu is too busy pillaging the US to bother pushing back on Russia as they inevitably expand further westward.

[Jedi]

A win for the world is for Putin to be overthrown and be publicly hanged in the Red Square. There is no Ukraine losing because it is a clear red line for Europe and Europe (and NATO) would be drawn into direct conflict with Russia long before that happens. We're not in 2022.

The "Putin strikes Berlin" crap is nonsense. It is for closeted homosexuals who fetishize tinpot inbred monkey dictators. Any strike against NATO ends with Russia getting balkanized. Let them trigger Article 5 if they want total death for Russia as a state and for its people, whether it is by conventional or nuclear war. It won't happen.

You are actually delusional enough to think that Art 5 would be invoked by Trump over Ukraine? Or that NATO is going to commit ground forces to expel Russia? Not a chance. As I noted, the Russian people are in support of Putin. This over throw idea was scuppered three years ago when the CIA and others trotted it out along with the Putin is terminally ill propaganda.

What does a Ukrainian or Russian win actually look like to you? Crimea? The East? Russia dissolved?

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