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Re: American Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:24 pm

Jedi wrote:Yeah exactly my point. You just admitted that, in your mind, Democrats are such a boogeyman that Trump can do virtually anything.

In fact, soon enough, you'll be saying he's justified in seeking a 3rd term or even stealing the election "because the Democrats already did it in 2020" (they didn't).
There are no more lines to cross.

And then you wondered why I didn't give a fvck when someone tried to blow Trump's brain out? I'm just ahead of the curve.


.......a 3rd term?

Come on, your really hooked line and sinker on the demented Democrat fake conspiracy theories.

No ones trying for a 3rd term, it's not even allowed lol.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Jedi » Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:44 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:.......a 3rd term?

Come on, your really hooked line and sinker on the demented Democrat fake conspiracy theories.

No ones trying for a 3rd term, it's not even allowed lol.

It's his own words, the words of his staffers, his campaign officials and his supporters. They were literally selling "Trump Third Term" hats and shirts at CPAC which is the biggest Conservative conference outside of the RNC.

Nothing to do with Democrats. Never heard a Democrat mention that in my life. Only saw it mentioned by MAGA people and Trump himself.

As for "It's not allowed," it wasn't allowed for Pence to overturn the 2020 election in Trump's favor but Trump asked him to do it anyway. He ultimately wasn't successful, but not for lack of trying.

Same case here. If Trump is at least 50% there cognitively at the end of his term, and not universally hated, he's definitely going to try to extend his presidency. 1 million percent he's going to try. I'd bet my house on it.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:00 am

Jedi wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:.......a 3rd term?

Come on, your really hooked line and sinker on the demented Democrat fake conspiracy theories.

No ones trying for a 3rd term, it's not even allowed lol.

It's his own words, the words of his staffers, his campaign officials and his supporters. They were literally selling "Trump Third Term" hats and shirts at CPAC which is the biggest Conservative conference outside of the RNC.

Nothing to do with Democrats. Never heard a Democrat mention that in my life. Only saw it mentioned by MAGA people and Trump himself.

As for "It's not allowed," it wasn't allowed for Pence to overturn the 2020 election in Trump's favor but Trump asked him to do it anyway. He ultimately wasn't successful, but not for lack of trying.

Same case here. If Trump is at least 50% there cognitively at the end of his term, and not universally hated, he's definitely going to try to extend his presidency. 1 million percent he's going to try. I'd bet my house on it.


Jedi, why do you think he is saying "some people say" and all the seed planting? Maybe a method to his madness that we see every day but fall for head over heels? Trump gets into peoples heads so far it is scary...literally scary.

As for "cognition", you still biting on that one?

Here's the thought provoker of the day. Gen Mike Flynn was on a podcast today and said that he knows that the two Trump attempts on his life were not simply lone wolves. He claimed that it is known by Trump that they both have Ukrainian ties. He said the FBI and SS have the goods but are holding much of it back due to "operational considerations". That would mean current security operations as well as diplomatic implications.

A guy like Flynn does not spout off without purpose. I reckon this a warning shot to Z along with narrative foundation building . True? Maybe. If so all hell would break loose in terms of the war/peace. I maintain that the Epstein release is on hold due to Israel's involvement, just as this could well involve Z or his handlers.
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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:12 am

Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:
Not to mention, Jay and Pat have not and can not criticize Trump in any way. They’re unbelievably biased so why should I be held to a different standard?



That is not exactly true. I was in the Trump is a bozo camp nine years ago. When my call was Hillary or Trump... it was Trump. When the Russia BS came out I questioned it, researched it and learned the facts. Then we had Charlottesville and the false reporting, the media and Dem pile on was so obviously concocted, along with the red pill digesting on an uneasy stomach my support went 90% behind the man's policies. We all saw it happen and people who watched closely started to wake up, some with TDS started waking up too. When you tug that little thread, like Maher and millions more did the story never added up. With that sort of threat to the narrative any time the man is humanized or even agreed with by the globalist media he becomes that much more powerful. To that point why can no MSM outlets agree with DOGE? Or the border? Or trans vs women? All issues that the vast majority of voters agree with. The term 90-10 or 80-20 issues is true. Yet the role of the media is to object to everything on principle? If someone lies to me like we were all lied to about Trump and his policies why should I not investigate the truth. And why should I trust the media who has lied or at least taken all their cues from a political party? It is why I don't watch FOX much, and CNN, BBC and MSNBC to see the latest objections to him. Then it seems wise to question all the information and seek truth. After 68 years I have settled on being a Socratic contrarian, and that works very nicely. Wish I had started that decades ago. About war especially.

One thing that everyone should at least ponder is why so many conspiracy theories are found to be true? Yet we still give credence to those people who hammer us over the head with BS? That and if one pays attention, the man seems to be correct on the big claims.

That does not mean I agree with everything the man does. I certainly did not like his first batch of cabinet members. I do not like the approach to Israel. I did not like the Yemen bombings (but am coming around (as any European who buys anything should applaud) because I see the action as a precursor to Iran talks. I don't particularly like that he took on the whole world rather than just China, but we shall see how it works out. I do not like the rhetoric at times but am used to it now. I do not like the man wandering all over the map when talking, but at least he lets everyone know where he stands.

I don't recall any other politician that garnered personal support like Trump has save Reagan.


Yeah - I have criticised Trump on several occasions.
That's the leftist way though - they point fingers at others for being unable to criticise their political 'side' when in fact it is they who are completely in a cult and will never give Trump credit for anything. In fact they go out of their way - completely obsessively to make mountains out of molehills attempting to turn rather minor issues into crimes of the century.

Their signalgate hoax was one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
Some of their many hoaxes are not funny though - like the coup attempt against Trump with the Russia hoax.

They always have a hoax on the boil - right now it's the insider trading pearl clutching and the obsessive wailing over an illegal alien El Salvador citizen being sent back to El Salvador.
signalgate didn't get the bite they needed so they just moved on to more.
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Re: American Politics

Postby theHotHead » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:18 am

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Jedi wrote:Another "but her emails" situation here, I see... Time is a flat circle

What was that story about again? Hillary Clinton had a private email server for official communications and we had years of FBI investigations and Republicans talking about it. Nothing hacked, nothing genuinely compromised.

Just compare it to Signal-gate which disappeared from the news cycle in about 3 days and was about the entire Trump admin discussing military attack plans on Yemen on a publicly available app from the Apple/Google Play store. And on top of that adding a random journalist from the Atlantic to the conversation. The type of f**k up that can end up with your aircraft carrier getting sunk... Nobody gives a shit.

Don't speak about hypocrisy. Ever.

Signal-gate was the result of a civilian mistakingly given access to a sensitive group, a clerical/admin error. It wasnt as a result of someone doing something bad deliberately. At worst you can accuse the Trump administration of being careless or negligent.


But the point is if it was on an appropriate communications channel that wouldn't have happened.

Again, Trump c**** cry like the world's tiniest bitches when Trump and his Maga scum mates get called stupid. Here we have it being public knowledge that Obama, an EX president, has a smart phone with all the apps disabled by the secret service for security reasons. And your Orange fool mate is doing this.

That's pretty f***ing stupid

Stop being a pleb, shit happens, you saying that if official channels/means were used it wouldn't have happened - er, no !! Where human beings are concerned mistakes can and will be made. Do you never make mistakes?!

I was working for a high profile US media company, I was on a flight from Moscow to London, I walked off and left my laptop on the security tray. When I realised I was already sat on the plane. When I told my boss there was an almighty kerfuffle about the data on the hard drive being intercepted by the Russians - I am no freekin spy lol. I got one of my friends in Moscow to collect the laptop and send it to me.

When it got to London they got a team to interrogate the laptop, looking for rogue hardware that may have been installed, I kid you not ! Then they trashed it, preferring to not plug it in to our corporate network "just in case".

All that faff caused by me - a nobody - who simply forgot his laptop in Security. This shit happens all the time, you hear about sensitive paperwork being left on trains and shit, it happens
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Re: American Politics

Postby Jedi » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:52 pm

Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:A guy like Flynn does not spout off without purpose.

Flynn was literally a Qanoner. Aka he believed there was a secret agent (Q) who dumped info on Japanese anime-styled image boards like 8kun about how Trump was going to enact martial law in 2020 and mass execute a secret cabal of pedophile elites that included Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama.

This is literally what he believed. He "does not spout off without purpose"? He's schizophrenic, he should be locked up in a psychiatric ward.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:27 pm

Jedi wrote:
Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:A guy like Flynn does not spout off without purpose.

Flynn was literally a Qanoner. Aka he believed there was a secret agent (Q) who dumped info on Japanese anime-styled image boards like 8kun about how Trump was going to enact martial law in 2020 and mass execute a secret cabal of pedophile elites that included Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama.

This is literally what he believed. He "does not spout off without purpose"? He's schizophrenic, he should be locked up in a psychiatric ward.


But has he been proved to be wrong? :dontknow: :rofll: Epstein is list still out there...and now Diddy Do Do!

First clue when looking up shit on Trump folks is ignore the Qanon BS. Qanon never has been a serious thing. With Flynn a person really wanting to understand his situation is to ask why he was in the Obama administration and then attacked by the deep state for opposing some covert actions and policies. They tried to nail him for official contacts with his Russian counterparts during the transition. So let's at least be factual eh?
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Re: American Politics

Postby TedLasso » Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:06 pm

So like Abrego Garcia is dead right? That’s why Trump is defying SCOTUS and refusing to take action?

If he’s alive, there’s no harm in bringing him back, apologize, and start bragging about how you saved him from gang rape and murder in an El Salvadorian prison. (Ignoring that they are responsible for sending him in the first place.

If he’s dead, they would act like they are now, hoping to hide all evidence in ES.

Shame he’s a POC otherwise more of the country might care. Then again, if he were white, the Trump admin never would have had him kidnapped. Jay must be thrilled as this will be the gateway for discarding anyone who is critical of the oligarchy.
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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:19 pm

TedLasso wrote:So like Abrego Garcia is dead right? That’s why Trump is defying SCOTUS and refusing to take action?

If he’s alive, there’s no harm in bringing him back, apologize, and start bragging about how you saved him from gang rape and murder in an El Salvadorian prison. (Ignoring that they are responsible for sending him in the first place.

If he’s dead, they would act like they are now, hoping to hide all evidence in ES.

Shame he’s a POC otherwise more of the country might care. Then again, if he were white, the Trump admin never would have had him kidnapped. Jay must be thrilled as this will be the gateway for discarding anyone who is critical of the oligarchy.


Thrilled?
Not really.

The guy is a POS MS-13 terrorist and wife beater. Couldn't care less where he is. Neither thrilled nor upset.

What is shocking is that the people bringing this up and so so concerned (apparently) never seemed as concerned with hundreds of thousands of missing kids who were lost when illegal immigration was encouraged and enabled. Or the murdered citizens like Laken Riley , killed by an illegal immigrant and criminal who was released into the streets.
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Re: American Politics

Postby TedLasso » Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:57 pm

Was it not confirmed that he is not a gang member? Where did these wife beater allegations come from?

Sounds like fabricated justification from the fake news media you so happily slurp up from the flaccid Fox phallus.

Is it smart practice to defy 9-0 SCOTUS rulings against you? Should there not be a penalty for defying court orders? Im just trying to understand the logic. God forbid you look like a hypocrite.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:19 pm

TedLasso wrote:Was it not confirmed that he is not a gang member? Where did these wife beater allegations come from?

Sounds like fabricated justification from the fake news media you so happily slurp up from the flaccid Fox phallus.

Is it smart practice to defy 9-0 SCOTUS rulings against you? Should there not be a penalty for defying court orders? Im just trying to understand the logic. God forbid you look like a hypocrite.


He was confirmed as MS13 by two courts and law enforcement in Maryland. Wife beating and step child abuse from court records based on complaints by his wife.

So the guy was put on admin hold for deportation because he claimed rival gangs would kill him. Those gangs are in prison with him now, so we shall see right? The same ruling said he could be deported to any other country. So where should he have been sent? He was sent home. El Salvador is a sovereign nation, not the CIA banana plantation the Dems think it is.

SCOTUS left wiggle room for a reason.

The bigger picture is that the dems reckon they win on all this? Opposing things that 80% of the nation agree on. But I give them credit for actually believing in and taking credit for what their policies reap. Voters do no agree, but that is why we vote.
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Re: American Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:33 pm

TedLasso wrote:Was it not confirmed that he is not a gang member? Where did these wife beater allegations come from?

Sounds like fabricated justification from the fake news media you so happily slurp up from the flaccid Fox phallus.

Is it smart practice to defy 9-0 SCOTUS rulings against you? Should there not be a penalty for defying court orders? Im just trying to understand the logic. God forbid you look like a hypocrite.



Sounds like you uninformed on all counts.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:20 pm

JD Vance is in charge of the US/UK trade negotiations. I have seen a decent part of the Unheard interview and it boils down to the UK has a step on the EU, but there is an issue with freedoms in the UK to discuss.

That seems like meddling on one hand, but then we have UK laws impacting US citizens and companies online. It is indeed political meddling. Not quite as blatant as sending 100s of Harris door knockers by Starmer perhaps. Then we get the videos of Bobbies questioning an old man about telling someone to "speak English" as a hate crime...and we in America wonder WTF? How close are our shared values? I say citizen to citizen very similar. I sure hope so.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:27 pm

The Ukraine war peace deals are facing headwinds, and the revelation that the US and NATO have been conducting that war from Brussels do not help. Nor does the fact that the Danes and others are acting as drone operators against Russia "to learn how to fight Russia".

Do Europeans think that a full blown European v Russia war will be a frontline drone fight as we watch on YouTube daily? Or even a fighter jet war?

Frederiksen, Ursula VdL and Kallas. So much for peaceful matriarchal rule. Hell lets chuck Maggie in that pool too.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:36 pm

Very interesting development on US and Iran. Israel was oncourse to bomb Tehran two months ago. Tulsi, Hegseth, and several others counseled Trump to stop Netanyahu and he did so. Then he bombed Yemen as a warning.

The guys who were fired by Hegseth were apparently the guys who leaked this. Selnick and Caldwell were both on record before the election as being for peace talks with Iran rather than war. I recall Caldwell on Tucker a few months back and was happy Hegseth hired him.
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