British Politics

[theHotHead]

You can't make this shit up !!!!

Now Labour are demanding rules in banking be relaxed to allow more risk taking, so that they are happier with the growth figures ! The very reason we have the extra governance is to rein in wild bankers and to reduce the risk taking that the entire country had to pay for - not the bankers !

Add to that, she wants to let the bankers get their bonuses early by cutting the 8 year deferral - a policy put in place after the financial crisis to ensure that senior bankers behave well in the long term - to 5 years.

Now - were it the Conservatives proposing either of these 2 changes people would be up in arms !!!!

Don't get me started on the Thought Police claims !!!

[DiamondGooner]

Could a Trump succeed in British politics though ? The US have had an actor become President (Reagan). We are too safe over here, we would never give someone like Trump the mandate and its someone like Trump - not indoctrinated in politics - to come in and make the big bold decisions that are needed.

We are just too safe here with voting

Yes we'd never go the celeb route, however Trump is a shrewd business man so not quite the same.

Right now I'm even tempted with Farage.

Yes he had RW sl*gs in his party unfortunately but we need a disrupter in govt.

Not just the same old who are literally against us.

[DiamondGooner]

So it turns out Labour are no better than the Conservatives.

Both main parties are the enemy of the people as far as I'm concerned.

Keith Starmer is acting like Keir Starlin.

[Rockape]

So it turns out Labour are no better than the Conservatives.

Both main parties are the enemy of the people as far as I'm concerned.

Keith Starmer is acting like Keir Starlin.

Did you expect anything else? I think by the time they've finished, you'll be desperate to get the Tories back in!

[DiamondGooner]

So it turns out Labour are no better than the Conservatives.

Both main parties are the enemy of the people as far as I'm concerned.

Keith Starmer is acting like Keir Starlin.

Did you expect anything else? I think by the time they've finished, you'll be desperate to get the Tories back in!

Never!

I learn my lessons, honestly we British think we're smart but we're fkin stupid, there are more choices than Labour / Conservatives ......its time we stopped voting for sht and voted for a party who has our interests at heart.

Conservative & Labour are our enemies, they have made that crystal clear.

[UFGN]

I’m disappointed with the start Labour have made. They fundamentally seem to fail to understand that people are hurting after many years of relentless bad news. They need to believe that the country can turn the corner and their prospects will improve.

It’s still very early days though and there is much time and much to do. Let them cook and see what they come up with.

The tories are fking beasts who have utterly f***ked the country, and now have a leader who wants to carry on harping on about culture wars. They haven’t learned a thing, and they never ever will. Their core beliefs are fundamentally against the interests of working people. Never forget that. Their current policy talking points include introducing flat rate income tax. Yes, really.

[Rockape]

So we know the Tories are shit and of course Labour have (despite all the bull) proved that they are no better and probably worse.

Which leaves Ed Daveys crew or Nige….both of whom would be massively out of their depth if they were elected.

Which confirms what we knew all along……we’re fcuked!

[Rockape]

Did anyone watch that C4 program recently about the massive rise in benefit payments.

Apparently there are YouTube videos advising what to say to your Doctor, such as ‘ I feel suicidal’ , which means you get signed off for mental health care and can claim up to £35k a year. In one area alone the number of claimants doubled to 750k in a year.

This massive drain on our economy, will stop any growth in its tracks. We are truly screwed, unless we can stop this.

[UFGN]

So we know the Tories are shit and of course Labour have (despite all the bull) proved that they are no better and probably worse.

Which leaves Ed Daveys crew or Nige….both of whom would be massively out of their depth if they were elected.

Which confirms what we knew all along……we’re fcuked!

I know you’re desperate for Labour to be awful but I think they’d have to wage a 14 year campaign against the people of this country, double the national debt, close public services, double street homelessness, enforce austerity, funnel billions of pounds of COVID contracts to their mates, cause untold division and misery, and then get working people to blame each other for it all, before they’re as bad as the Tory Scum.

[Rockape]

So we know the Tories are shit and of course Labour have (despite all the bull) proved that they are no better and probably worse.

Which leaves Ed Daveys crew or Nige….both of whom would be massively out of their depth if they were elected.

Which confirms what we knew all along……we’re fcuked!

I know you’re desperate for Labour to be awful but I think they’d have to wage a 14 year campaign against the people of this country, double the national debt, close public services, double street homelessness, enforce austerity, funnel billions of pounds of COVID contracts to their mates, cause untold division and misery, and then get working people to blame each other for it all, before they’re as bad as the Tory Scum.

You do make me laugh sometimes UFGN!

[DiamondGooner]

So we know the Tories are shit and of course Labour have (despite all the bull) proved that they are no better and probably worse.

Which leaves Ed Daveys crew or Nige….both of whom would be massively out of their depth if they were elected.

Which confirms what we knew all along……we’re fcuked!

We need to rock the boat for Parliament to truly get the message and for others to see politics as worthwhile outside of the big 2.

All we ever do is tennis our votes between what we admittedly state is a "Lesser of two evils" scenario......and wonder why they aren't even trying to hide their disdain anymore.

Think of this, of all the moaning about under funding the NHS and cant find the money......yet the Tories "lost" over a billion of Tax payers money, I'm sure the NHS would of gladly used that for our benefit.

Decency seems to have evaporated in today's world, everyone with money or in a position of power has swapped their conscience for ripping everyone off as quick as feasibly possible.

[Royal Gooner]

So we know the Tories are shit and of course Labour have (despite all the bull) proved that they are no better and probably worse.

Which leaves Ed Daveys crew or Nige….both of whom would be massively out of their depth if they were elected.

Which confirms what we knew all along……we’re fcuked!

We need to rock the boat for Parliament to truly get the message and for others to see politics as worthwhile outside of the big 2.

All we ever do is tennis our votes between what we admittedly state is a "Lesser of two evils" scenario......and wonder why they aren't even trying to hide their disdain anymore.

That's what Nigel is here for. The real alternative

[theHotHead]

So it turns out Labour are no better than the Conservatives.

Both main parties are the enemy of the people as far as I'm concerned.

Keith Starmer is acting like Keir Starlin.

Did you expect anything else? I think by the time they've finished, you'll be desperate to get the Tories back in!

Yup, we have to sit here and watch Labour make bad decision after bad decision under the pretence that its all because of previous Tory governments.

The Conservatives had to go, but with the Lib Dems seemingly not representing anything its hard to see them getting votes in any significant numbers. That just leaves you with Reform to have any significant change and the people can't stomach that.

We are essentially devoid of any real choice and that leaves us screwed as a nation that wants and needs change.

[theHotHead]

So we know the Tories are shit and of course Labour have (despite all the bull) proved that they are no better and probably worse.

Which leaves Ed Daveys crew or Nige….both of whom would be massively out of their depth if they were elected.

Which confirms what we knew all along……we’re fcuked!

Oh snap, I posted my previous post before I saw your post.

[theHotHead]

So we know the Tories are shit and of course Labour have (despite all the bull) proved that they are no better and probably worse.

Which leaves Ed Daveys crew or Nige….both of whom would be massively out of their depth if they were elected.

Which confirms what we knew all along……we’re fcuked!

I know you’re desperate for Labour to be awful but I think they’d have to wage a 14 year campaign against the people of this country, double the national debt, close public services, double street homelessness, enforce austerity, funnel billions of pounds of COVID contracts to their mates, cause untold division and misery, and then get working people to blame each other for it all, before they’re as bad as the Tory Scum.

Oh leave off!!!

You cant be in opposition for how long Labour were and criticise everything the Tories did, then get into power and make as bad decisions as they made - but claim its because of the previous government! Some of the decisions have been straight up nonsense.

And as for your claim people want Labour to fail, why the hell would we want that?? If Labour fails that inevitably means our lives will be more of a misery !! For anyone that lives in Blighty its in our best interests for the ruling party to do well. We still have to live !