British Politics

[theHotHead]

More reports coming in that its expected that businesses will hold pay rises to counter the NI increase.

This tax hits employers only - not the high earners, its a stupid move.

[UFGN]

More reports coming in that its expected that businesses will hold pay rises to counter the NI increase.

This tax hits employers only - not the high earners, its a stupid move.

The allowance to help small businesses counter this has been increased.

Businesses will often use any excuse going to keep wages and wage rises low. These tax changes will be used as this year's excuse and next year there will be another one. Having been involved in trade unions for a while now, I know this very well. Bosses never, never say "the economy is good, sales are strong, inflation has been high of late, so fair do's we agree with your pay aspirations". There is plenty of position setting going on here. Again, businesses owe their very existence to government support during covid. They have to pay more because national debt interest payments now are outrageous. As a business savvy person you should understand the importance of that.

Why did you not cough up your spleen with rage after the last three tax rising Tory budgets? Why is it only now that you’re clawing your eyes out?

[DiamondGooner]

Not going to lie .........I like this budget more than the Tory ones.

Increase for the NHS which is sorely needed and overdue.

Taxing the rich in ways they can't use so many loopholes like on their Private Jets and Capital Gains, there needs to be more and I don't know everything they put in place but they need to stop trying to tax areas with loopholes and target them at their source of profit.

What I don't like is the Stamp duty being at £120k because its an additional cost on trying to own your own home, really should be at £400k imo, that's where people have enough money to pay it.

I don't mind an increase in NI because we need to fund the NHS as its in an absolute state, we've not increased it in line with population and there in lies the problem.

I just want Labour to keep focusing on the £1m+ club, how can you have people earning £2m per year plus avoiding every angle to tax them as well, its a liberty that's been going on for far too long, they're driving around in Ferrari's and have million pound houses yet won't even pay their share % wise of their earnings that the lower and middle class are forced to at the hands of the Tax office because we're trapped on a wage .........and that is when employers pass the buck.

I'm not on about taxing the crap out of employers, I'm on about taxing those who have inherited money from wealth accumulation by using capital gains, all these fkers buying houses, cutting them up from a 3 bed into a 5 bed full of box rooms, heating up the housing market, should tax the living sht out of them.

[UFGN]

Not going to lie .........I like this budget more than the Tory ones.

Increase for the NHS which is sorely needed and overdue.

Taxing the rich in ways they can't use so many loopholes like on their Private Jets and Capital Gains, there needs to be more and I don't know everything they put in place but they need to stop trying to tax areas with loopholes and target them at their source of profit.

What I don't like is the Stamp duty being at £120k because its an additional cost on trying to own your own home, really should be at £400k imo, that's where people have enough money to pay it.

I don't mind an increase in NI because we need to fund the NHS as its in an absolute state, we've not increased it in line with population and there in lies the problem.

I just want Labour to keep focusing on the £1m+ club, how can you have people earning £2m per year plus avoiding every angle to tax them as well, its a liberty that's been going on for far too long, they're driving around in Ferrari's and have million pound houses yet won't even pay their share % wise of their earnings that the lower and middle class are forced to at the hands of the Tax office because we're trapped on a wage .........and that is when employers pass the buck.

I'm not on about taxing the crap out of employers, I'm on about taxing those who have inherited money from wealth accumulation by using capital gains, all these fkers buying houses, cutting them up from a 3 bed into a 5 bed full of box rooms, heating up the housing market, should tax the living sht out of them.

The NI on employers is good insofar as the likes of Starbucks can’t avoid it. Doesn’t matter how many accounts you have, you gotta pay that tax end of. A lot of the screeching in the press is because this one is actually going to hit big business and their client media are doing what they’re told in condemning it.

I think inheritance tax is one way to target high net worth individuals but you’ve got to go after their trust funds as well. I don’t mind if there’s an exemption to allow assets such as a small family business which might have high value equipment, or a fishing boat for example, to be passed at a lower rate of tax.

[DiamondGooner]

This is the difference.

You see Rishi and his mates going mad about this budget, just goes to show the rich not only have a voice arguing for them, but a voice with actual power to make changes in their favour and they've had that in place for 14 years.

So sorry but fk them, if they actually played fair then it wouldn't be a problem, but the rich see paying tax as what only stupid people do, so I'm glad Labour are going after them.

[theHotHead]

More reports coming in that its expected that businesses will hold pay rises to counter the NI increase.

This tax hits employers only - not the high earners, its a stupid move.

The allowance to help small businesses counter this has been increased.

Businesses will often use any excuse going to keep wages and wage rises low. These tax changes will be used as this year's excuse and next year there will be another one. Having been involved in trade unions for a while now, I know this very well. Bosses never, never say "the economy is good, sales are strong, inflation has been high of late, so fair do's we agree with your pay aspirations". There is plenty of position setting going on here. Again, businesses owe their very existence to government support during covid. They have to pay more because national debt interest payments now are outrageous. As a business savvy person you should understand the importance of that.

Why did you not cough up your spleen with rage after the last three tax rising Tory budgets? Why is it only now that you’re clawing your eyes out?

Like what ?? Tell me what tax increases I was supposed to be up in arms about. I have a list from Full Fact (the fact checking service) from the last election (2019), let me see if your so-called tax increases are actually real. Hint - tax freezes are NOT increases !

[theHotHead]

Not going to lie .........I like this budget more than the Tory ones.

Increase for the NHS which is sorely needed and overdue.

Taxing the rich in ways they can't use so many loopholes like on their Private Jets and Capital Gains, there needs to be more and I don't know everything they put in place but they need to stop trying to tax areas with loopholes and target them at their source of profit.

What I don't like is the Stamp duty being at £120k because its an additional cost on trying to own your own home, really should be at £400k imo, that's where people have enough money to pay it.

I don't mind an increase in NI because we need to fund the NHS as its in an absolute state, we've not increased it in line with population and there in lies the problem.

I just want Labour to keep focusing on the £1m+ club, how can you have people earning £2m per year plus avoiding every angle to tax them as well, its a liberty that's been going on for far too long, they're driving around in Ferrari's and have million pound houses yet won't even pay their share % wise of their earnings that the lower and middle class are forced to at the hands of the Tax office because we're trapped on a wage .........and that is when employers pass the buck.

I'm not on about taxing the crap out of employers, I'm on about taxing those who have inherited money from wealth accumulation by using capital gains, all these fkers buying houses, cutting them up from a 3 bed into a 5 bed full of box rooms, heating up the housing market, should tax the living sht out of them.

This budget doesn't address what you are talking about, the Employer's NI increase doesn't affect anyone employed that earns £1m+ !!

The NHS isn't a state because of lack of funding, its a state because of piss-poor management ! The amount of money those f***ers get every year and the state of the place ! Giving them more money is akin to throwing your money into a black hole, it won't change a damned thing ! The waste in all public departments is staggering, they wouldn't survive being run the way they are if they were privately owned !

You have consultants and middle managers rinsing the NHS, earning obscene amounts for doing f**k all, you have red tape that prevents anything sensible from happening, its a diabolical joke.

You say you can't give nurses a pay rise but you can go and hire hundreds of agency staff getting paid double what nurses get. Its a f***ing joke. They need to start all over again, simplify things and manage things properly, more money to the NHS is like putting a plaster on a broken leg !

[UFGN]

More reports coming in that its expected that businesses will hold pay rises to counter the NI increase.

This tax hits employers only - not the high earners, its a stupid move.

The allowance to help small businesses counter this has been increased.

Businesses will often use any excuse going to keep wages and wage rises low. These tax changes will be used as this year's excuse and next year there will be another one. Having been involved in trade unions for a while now, I know this very well. Bosses never, never say "the economy is good, sales are strong, inflation has been high of late, so fair do's we agree with your pay aspirations". There is plenty of position setting going on here. Again, businesses owe their very existence to government support during covid. They have to pay more because national debt interest payments now are outrageous. As a business savvy person you should understand the importance of that.

Why did you not cough up your spleen with rage after the last three tax rising Tory budgets? Why is it only now that you’re clawing your eyes out?

Like what ?? Tell me what tax increases I was supposed to be up in arms about. I have a list from Full Fact (the fact checking service) from the last election (2019), let me see if your so-called tax increases are actually real. Hint - tax freezes are NOT increases !

There have been five Tory budgets since 2019

You’re seriously bitching more about this than you did Truss butchering the whole country

[theHotHead]

She/they resigned.

Is Starmer and this Reeves woman going to resign ?!

You pushed out your head and asked why I didn't make noise about the Tory tax increases, I asked you what tax increases should I have been annoyed about and you can't name one ! I know what Tory "tax" increases there have been since 2019, I want to know which ones I was supposed to be upset about.

I can list all the ones the Labour Party have been clinging on to, half of which are not tax increases at all. None of them hit me in the pocket like this Employer's NI is going to do.

[UFGN]

She/they resigned.

Is Starmer and this Reeves woman going to resign ?!

You pushed out your head and asked why I didn't make noise about the Tory tax increases, I asked you what tax increases should I have been annoyed about and you can't name one ! I know what Tory "tax" increases there have been since 2019, I want to know which ones I was supposed to be upset about.

I can list all the ones the Labour Party have been clinging on to, half of which are not tax increases at all. None of them hit me in the pocket like this Employer's NI is going to do.

So what if Truss resigned? The point I'm making is that YOU had less to say about her trashing YOUR mortgage therefore costing you MORE MONEY than this budget. She was Forced to resign by the way, she thinks she did nothing wrong.

What is even your beef? Class four NICs? You said you're self employed so presumably class four NICs

How much can this possibly be costing you compared to the Truss bloodbath?

The income tax rises and freezes on working people in recent years have been disastrous AND CONTINUE EVEN NOW. Not a word from you about that then or now.

BUT BUT BUT.....you're only moaning about this one policy!! Again, a load of noise over the first labour budget in 15 years, based largely on one policy when many others have definitely cost you a lot more in recent years.

I mean, you say you're not just about "I'm alright Jack" but it looks like you are to me. This particular tax got you, so you say anyway. You don't employ anyone so I assume you're moaning about C4 NICs? So, meh? Unlucky this time? Even if you qualify as an employee of your own business we're talking about what, 1.5p extra on the pound over a certain threshold? Boo bloody hoo! I'm sure your expenses claims can be made to cover it.

[Rockape]

What ever people say about the Tories, such as right wing, racist filthbags.....you can't deny they are head and shoulders above the other parties, when it comes to choosing their leader. Not only did they produce the first women Prime Minister,(45 yrs ago) the first Prime minister of colour, but now the first black woman leader of the party.

I really know nothing about her, but she has a mountain to climb in the next 4 years.....so needs to be something special!

[DiamondGooner]

What ever people say about the Tories, such as right wing, racist filthbags.....you can't deny they are head and shoulders above the other parties, when it comes to choosing their leader. Not only did they produce the first women Prime Minister,(45 yrs ago) the first Prime minister of colour, but now the first black woman leader of the party.

I really know nothing about her, but she has a mountain to climb in the next 4 years.....so needs to be something special!

I don't care if they had Jesus Christ as their leader, I'll never vote Conservative again.

I don't care about colour or a woman, I vote on policy and the Govt being decent, the Tories robbed us of billions and are the party of the rich, landlords and banks.......fk them.

Not even the racists are sticking with Tories now as they did nothing about immigration either and they had 14 yrs.

[theHotHead]

LOL DG has the arsehole with the Conservatives.

I think Badenoch makes them a much better proposition than any of the fucktards that came before her or who were challenging her for leadership.

She is straight talking rather than slippery and I think she will appeal a whole lot of people that would not normally vote Conservative. Lets see if she is full of big chat with nothing behind it.

[Royal Gooner]

What ever people say about the Tories, such as right wing, racist filthbags.....you can't deny they are head and shoulders above the other parties, when it comes to choosing their leader. Not only did they produce the first women Prime Minister,(45 yrs ago) the first Prime minister of colour, but now the first black woman leader of the party.

I really know nothing about her, but she has a mountain to climb in the next 4 years.....so needs to be something special!

Even more that she earned it by merit and not because of any "diversity" requirements. But I think all she has to do is just oppose Starmer's unpopular measures and build a closer relationship with Farage and Reform and she'll take the Tories back up.

[DiamondGooner]

LOL DG has the arsehole with the Conservatives.

I think Badenoch makes them a much better proposition than any of the fucktards that came before her or who were challenging her for leadership.

She is straight talking rather than slippery and I think she will appeal a whole lot of people that would not normally vote Conservative. Lets see if she is full of big chat with nothing behind it.

The Conservatives are against the people, they keep the economy good for the rich.

Over my time and its taken decades but there are no more chances left with me, I've seem enough leaders, enough promises.

The British Parliament is as sick as the Democrat establishment and the old boy Republicans, we need an outlier like Trump or Lib Dems, someone, anyone who has the side of the people.......no more settling for trash where our best hope is that they don't screw us too much.