American Politics

[jayramfootball]

CNN have apologised for lying
They used a doctored photo from a parody account that has as heading something about love at first sight above the doctored image.
Jedi still defending them.
Doesn’t realise that no one buys CNN nonsense anymore.

[jayramfootball]

Honestly I don't know how either of you guys can back either Harris or Trump.

If I were American though I think Trump is better for the economy ........but that is literally about it.

The whole thing is a shambles, DeSantis surely was the best candidate?

America needs to do better, come to think of it we're in no position to talk, our corrupt Parliament needs gutting to the core, or burning down, where's Guy Forks when you need him.

I think De Santis too.
Was probably the best of the bunch.
Trump is obviously better than Kamala, but he’ll be more of the same chaos as last time.

[jayramfootball]

This is nothing like the Hunter laptop story, which was a coordinated censorship of the information across multiple platforms and lies by the govt to cover it up.

You can't get more coordinated than this. JD Vance is literally being bankrolled by Peter Thiel and Palantir, and Peter Thiel is inextricably tied to Elon Musk, both on a personal and financial level.

You have all these conspiracies, and you see collusion, corruption and rigging everywhere. But once it is the billionaires and special interest who massage your ego with their statements, your brain shuts off.

You're to talk about "big pharma" or defense contractors. But none of those companies even crack the top 50 in US. Yet you shill for the richest man in the history of humanity. You're pathetic.

In this instance, just from a simple search, it reveals you are lying again. It’s disgusting really that you would lie so blatantly.

Here’s why Twitter/X suspended the account

Ken Klippenstein was temporarily suspended for violating our rules on posting unredacted private personal information, specifically Sen. Vance's physical addresses and the majority of his Social Security number," the company posted.

Shame on you for peddling lies.

Your "simple search" terms appears to be "How do I shill for Elon Musk," because if you really cared, you could've at least included Ken Klippenstein's rebuttal to Elon Musk's shitty excuse.

The censored journalist, Ken Klippenstein, responded by pointing out that according to the document itself, all information inside of it was "readily available." Here's a quote from his substack:

The document itself describes its method of acquiring the so-called “private” information about Vance: "We undertook an examination of all readily available and relevant electronic and online records, several hundred Nexis and news articles, dozens of active and archived web pages, and several dozen public records from Nexis and the resources of various federal, state, and municipal government offices." In other words, everything was out there, either readily or for purchase.

So, unless the Trump campaign illegally spied on JD Vance, everything in the article is a matter of public record or purchasable from data brokers.

Furthermore, the report itself wasn't posted on Twitter. Klippenstein simply posted a link to his Substack, which means "X" is now banning people for off-platform behavior. Simply Orwellian.

And lastly, if JD Vance was some anonymous citizen, then I'd understand why his privacy is important. However, JD Vance is literally running for Vice President of the United States of America.

To censor a journalist reporting about him is SCANDALOUS, specifically because Elon Musk pretends to be a "free speech warrior," and literally mass unbanned devout Nazis by using that as an excuse.

So if he's a free speech warrior, I'd just like to ask, what law did Klippenstein break? Why is Elon censoring speech if it is not illegal? He doesn't mind all the racial slurs, Nazi flags, pro-Hitler comments, and so on. Why is this any different?

The only difference? He's doing a favor for his PayPal mafia buddy Peter Thiel.

You lied fella.
This was a document Trump had generated on Vance for vetting. There’s nothing interesting in it.
The guy who posted it got suspended because he did not redact home addresses and other personal information.
That’s it.
Absolutely nothing like the Biden laptop issue.

You can bloviate all you like, but you got caught again.

When are you going to stop peddling propaganda and bullshit?
There are actually some interesting political discussions to have, but you seem to be slipping into extreme propaganda mode as the election date draws near.

Listen fella, no one believes all that CNN and MSNBC nonsense you fill your brain with and repost everywhere.

[theHotHead]

Honestly I don't know how either of you guys can back either Harris or Trump.

If I were American though I think Trump is better for the economy ........but that is literally about it.

The whole thing is a shambles, DeSantis surely was the best candidate?

America needs to do better, come to think of it we're in no position to talk, our corrupt Parliament needs gutting to the core, or burning down, where's Guy Forks when you need him.

You hit the nail on the head, if they are the best 2 on offer who offers most? It would have to be a resounding vote for Trump. He has previous, we know what he did well when he was in power, he prioritised America and American jobs, he protected industries with tarrifs on imports, he kept China, Russia and N Korea quiet.

As an American what more do you want??

[Jedi]

CNN have apologised for lying

No, they didn't. You lied.

You said they used a fake image to make it seem like Trump was close and "cozy" with Laura Loomer. I posted both the real image and the doctored image and the only difference is Trump's ass looks fatter than normal on the fake image.

Unless you think his buttocks expanding is a sign of love and coziness, you completely misrepresented the situation—and you did this knowingly and maliciously.

Either you're lying or you're schizophrenic. I'm sorry, but there's no in-between. You've been debunked. Take your L and move on.

[Jedi]

You lied fella.
This was a document Trump had generated on Vance for vetting. There’s nothing interesting in it.

Move along plebs. We don't need free speech. Jayram and our corporate overlords have checked the documents and decided for us that there is nothing interesting in them.

The guy who posted it got suspended because he did not redact home addresses and other personal information.
That’s it.
Absolutely nothing like the Biden laptop issue.

You're repeating yourself. I already rebutted this by pointing out all the "personal information" is readily available on the internet for anyone who is willing to do a few google searches and pay a small fee to a data broker.

However, did you forget that Hunter Biden's penis is still being splattered all over X on a daily basis?

That the "Libs of TikTok" X account is actively posting doxxes from private citizens they disagree with, and Musk not only allows it but endorses it on his platform.

Meanwhile, the guy who was posting public info about Elon Musk's plane is banned. Literally public info, open up any flight tracker on the internet and Musk's plane is there.

You can't debate out of this, because the facts are not on your side. Either stay a hypocrite or just admit you don't give a f**k about tech censorship or free speech in that context, and you just wanted "your guys" to say whatever they want to say without consequences.

[jayramfootball]

You lied fella.
This was a document Trump had generated on Vance for vetting. There’s nothing interesting in it.

Move along plebs. We don't need free speech. Jayram and our corporate overlords have checked the documents and decided for us that there is nothing interesting in them.

The guy who posted it got suspended because he did not redact home addresses and other personal information.
That’s it.
Absolutely nothing like the Biden laptop issue.

You're repeating yourself. I already rebutted this by pointing out all the "personal information" is readily available on the internet for anyone who is willing to do a few google searches and pay a small fee to a data broker.

However, did you forget that Hunter Biden's penis is still being splattered all over X on a daily basis?

That the "Libs of TikTok" X account is actively posting doxxes from private citizens they disagree with, and Musk not only allows it but endorses it on his platform.

Meanwhile, the guy who was posting public info about Elon Musk's plane is banned. Literally public info, open up any flight tracker on the internet and Musk's plane is there.

You can't debate out of this, because the facts are not on your side. Either stay a hypocrite or just admit you don't give a f**k about tech censorship or free speech in that context, and you just wanted "your guys" to say whatever they want to say without consequences.

Yes, i repeated the truth because you insist on lying, presumably because you hate being caught.
He was suspended from X because he revealed Vance's home address and other personal information.

Posted up very transparently on the X platform

Ken Klippenstein was temporarily suspended for violating our rules on posting unredacted private personal information, specifically Sen. Vance’s physical addresses and the majority of his Social Security number.

It's standard practice.
All he has to do is remove / redact the personal information.
This is also specifically and account suspension on the account that published information not allowed.
The same reporter has another account on the platform that is not suspended.

Those are the facts and they are 100% on my side.
You were chatting utter shite when you compared it to the Hunter Biden laptop, where the entire MSM not only refused to run the story, but peddled lies by the Govt 'intelligence' agencies, to cover it all up/discredit what ended up being true.

[Jedi]

Ah yes, the good old "repeat the same post and hope for the best" strategy.

It's clear you've folded on both topics and you're now stalling until something else comes up in this thread. That's alright I won't press you further.

But I have to admit I'm kind of disappointed. You were always blatantly lying but at least you came up with better lies.

[TedLasso]

Great news for the champion of the black community, Donald Trump.

[jayramfootball]

Great news for the champion of the black community, Donald Trump.

Not sure this is good news for Harris.
The actual vote totals are down vs 2020 - the mix is irrelevant.
The key numbers are significant drops in the non white vote vs 2020 and a MASSIVE drop in white votes since 2020.
Much of all of that will be the reduction in mail in voting (no COVID), but if the white vote is significantly down it's likely bad news for Harris - as it may well signal a drop in the white 'not Trump' vote.

[jayramfootball]

Can't say I like Vance particularly - I think he's an establishment plant - but he shredded Walz in the VP debate last night.
Walz is a catastrophe it has to be said.
Not sure the VP debate will move the dial in any meaningful way though.
We'll see.

[TedLasso]

Walz absolutely streamrolled Vance. He looked like the adult in the room and Vance’s cry about getting fact checked was an awful look. Came across as a petulant child. Republicans are a mess. It makes the whole of America so much weaker.

[UFGN]

I wouldn’t trust Vance with my house keys. I just think he’d do something weird like look through your family photos or sniff your sheets.

[jayramfootball]

Walz absolutely streamrolled Vance. He looked like the adult in the room and Vance’s cry about getting fact checked was an awful look. Came across as a petulant child. Republicans are a mess. It makes the whole of America so much weaker.

Good grief.
Even the dems reaction seems to be 'don't worry, VP debates don't matter' - which is not untrue to be fair but signals clearly they know Walz got blitzed.

Walz was so nervous he actually blurted out that he's become friends with school shooters and called himself a 'knucklehead'

After Walz was caught lying again and gave a word salad answerr when confronted about saying he was at Tianemen Square, I saw this today which made me chuckle



He's Walter Mitty.

[TedLasso]

Mixing up the date of his trip hardly seems significant to anyone not drinking the red kool aid.

VP debates absolutely do not matter though. Never have, never will. It’s one of the least important roles in government.