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Re: British Politics

Postby Arsenal Tone » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:18 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Hah, its started already, the fuckry!!

Government are restricting winter fuel bill payments that will affect 10 million pensioners.

Were it the Conservatives that did it people would be calling them heartless. Lets not be hypocrites !!


They have already started making excuses about budget shortfalls.
News yesterday that they are aiming to increase the pension age to 71 also.
We are in for a terrible 5 years under this idiot Starmer and his rotten party - a party elected by default having had a massive fall in the number of votes compared to the 2019 election they got trounced in.

Anyone promoting the Labour party or the Tories needs to have their head examined.
We're f***ked with this 2 party election system.
"Labour just spend , spend spend. Don't vote them in"

They get in

"Labour aren't spend, spend, spending, they're just as bad as the conservatives"
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:06 am

theHotHead wrote:Hah, its started already, the fuckry!!

Government are restricting winter fuel bill payments that will affect 10 million pensioners.

Were it the Conservatives that did it people would be calling them heartless. Lets not be hypocrites !!


Ok let's not be hypocrites as you say

The national debt has more than doubled under the Tories, including £8.4 Billion paid in public contracts since 2016 to companies controlled by conservative party doners

That massive corruption and all the other Tory failure and theft has to be paid for. What you will see is the majority of new tax rises aimed at people who can afford to pay them. I'm not sure winter fuel payments is the best idea for a money raiser though.

Labour are not the same as the Tories. Four weeks in and they've already cancelled the Rwanda bullshit, made plans to nationalise the railways, and brought the doctor's dispute to an end. And more! Four weeks!
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Re: British Politics

Postby theHotHead » Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:20 am

UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Hah, its started already, the fuckry!!

Government are restricting winter fuel bill payments that will affect 10 million pensioners.

Were it the Conservatives that did it people would be calling them heartless. Lets not be hypocrites !!


Ok let's not be hypocrites as you say

The national debt has more than doubled under the Tories, including £8.4 Billion paid in public contracts since 2016 to companies controlled by conservative party doners

That massive corruption and all the other Tory failure and theft has to be paid for. What you will see is the majority of new tax rises aimed at people who can afford to pay them. I'm not sure winter fuel payments is the best idea for a money raiser though.

Labour are not the same as the Tories. Four weeks in and they've already cancelled the Rwanda bullshit, made plans to nationalise the railways, and brought the doctor's dispute to an end. And more! Four weeks!

Yeah, they made plans to nationalise the railway in 4 weeks lol! You don't think they had those plans already??

As for shutting down the Rwanda bullshit, any eejut would, they don't get a star for doing the obvious.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:39 am

theHotHead wrote:
UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Hah, its started already, the fuckry!!

Government are restricting winter fuel bill payments that will affect 10 million pensioners.

Were it the Conservatives that did it people would be calling them heartless. Lets not be hypocrites !!


Ok let's not be hypocrites as you say

The national debt has more than doubled under the Tories, including £8.4 Billion paid in public contracts since 2016 to companies controlled by conservative party doners

That massive corruption and all the other Tory failure and theft has to be paid for. What you will see is the majority of new tax rises aimed at people who can afford to pay them. I'm not sure winter fuel payments is the best idea for a money raiser though.

Labour are not the same as the Tories. Four weeks in and they've already cancelled the Rwanda bullshit, made plans to nationalise the railways, and brought the doctor's dispute to an end. And more! Four weeks!

Yeah, they made plans to nationalise the railway in 4 weeks lol! You don't think they had those plans already??

As for shutting down the Rwanda bullshit, any eejut would, they don't get a star for doing the obvious.


Your desperation to find reasons to shit on Labour is already tiresome. But, but…..yeah, that’s what you’re doing. You’ve already got your playbook marked out and you’re just looking for excuses to write rehearsed outrage. It started even before the election.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:16 am

I'll wait for them to be in the door for a bit before passing judgment but........we're not in a 2 party system.

I voted Lib as did others, the issue is people BELIEVE its a 2 party system so they don't give others a chance.

Maybe Libs will get more of a look next election.

Instead of being played like a bunch of hamsters, maybe the public need to hold themselves more accountable for their own choices and why we're so easy to play like a fiddle only ever voting for 2 parties when we literally have the choice not to do so.........
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Re: British Politics

Postby theHotHead » Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:28 am

UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Hah, its started already, the fuckry!!

Government are restricting winter fuel bill payments that will affect 10 million pensioners.

Were it the Conservatives that did it people would be calling them heartless. Lets not be hypocrites !!


Ok let's not be hypocrites as you say

The national debt has more than doubled under the Tories, including £8.4 Billion paid in public contracts since 2016 to companies controlled by conservative party doners

That massive corruption and all the other Tory failure and theft has to be paid for. What you will see is the majority of new tax rises aimed at people who can afford to pay them. I'm not sure winter fuel payments is the best idea for a money raiser though.

Labour are not the same as the Tories. Four weeks in and they've already cancelled the Rwanda bullshit, made plans to nationalise the railways, and brought the doctor's dispute to an end. And more! Four weeks!

Yeah, they made plans to nationalise the railway in 4 weeks lol! You don't think they had those plans already??

As for shutting down the Rwanda bullshit, any eejut would, they don't get a star for doing the obvious.


Your desperation to find reasons to shit on Labour is already tiresome. But, but…..yeah, that’s what you’re doing. You’ve already got your playbook marked out and you’re just looking for excuses to write rehearsed outrage. It started even before the election.

You are a hypocrite!!

Were it the Conservatives that pulled that one you would be up in arms !! Where is the outrage?? Oh its because the national debt has trebled looooool

You and Labour are like the Arteta in brigade, you won't acknowledge criticism or condemn their wrongdoings
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:50 pm

theHotHead wrote:
UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Hah, its started already, the fuckry!!

Government are restricting winter fuel bill payments that will affect 10 million pensioners.

Were it the Conservatives that did it people would be calling them heartless. Lets not be hypocrites !!


Ok let's not be hypocrites as you say

The national debt has more than doubled under the Tories, including £8.4 Billion paid in public contracts since 2016 to companies controlled by conservative party doners

That massive corruption and all the other Tory failure and theft has to be paid for. What you will see is the majority of new tax rises aimed at people who can afford to pay them. I'm not sure winter fuel payments is the best idea for a money raiser though.

Labour are not the same as the Tories. Four weeks in and they've already cancelled the Rwanda bullshit, made plans to nationalise the railways, and brought the doctor's dispute to an end. And more! Four weeks!

Yeah, they made plans to nationalise the railway in 4 weeks lol! You don't think they had those plans already??

As for shutting down the Rwanda bullshit, any eejut would, they don't get a star for doing the obvious.


Your desperation to find reasons to shit on Labour is already tiresome. But, but…..yeah, that’s what you’re doing. You’ve already got your playbook marked out and you’re just looking for excuses to write rehearsed outrage. It started even before the election.

You are a hypocrite!!

Were it the Conservatives that pulled that one you would be up in arms !! Where is the outrage?? Oh its because the national debt has trebled looooool

You and Labour are like the Arteta in brigade, you won't acknowledge criticism or condemn their wrongdoings


Show me some wrongdoings and I'll condemn them.

I don't think winter fuel payments is a good area to target for cuts. But I do think their tax policy will be better overall for working and poor people than the Tories would deliver and have delivered. Looking forward with interest to the budget when they'll probably raise CGT and or inheritance tax....better that than taxes on working people.

And yes, I'm sorry but the Tory filth have left us in unimaginable debt despite years of austerity. We're paying something like ten times the justice department budget just to cover debt interest. Think what that actually means. Ten times all the money we spend on prisons, courts and probation. On debt interest. They caused that.

I'm not even a Labour man btw. I am a Lib Dem who understands that the centre left had to unite to get the Tories out. Hopefully this new unified approach to centre left politics will last long term.
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Re: British Politics

Postby theHotHead » Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:09 am

UFGN wrote:Show me some wrongdoings and I'll condemn them.

I don't think winter fuel payments is a good area to target for cuts. But I do think their tax policy will be better overall for working and poor people than the Tories would deliver and have delivered. Looking forward with interest to the budget when they'll probably raise CGT and or inheritance tax....better that than taxes on working people.

And yes, I'm sorry but the Tory filth have left us in unimaginable debt despite years of austerity. We're paying something like ten times the justice department budget just to cover debt interest. Think what that actually means. Ten times all the money we spend on prisons, courts and probation. On debt interest. They caused that.

I'm not even a Labour man btw. I am a Lib Dem who understands that the centre left had to unite to get the Tories out. Hopefully this new unified approach to centre left politics will last long term.

I just bloody did, but you are caveating your condemnation, its bullcrap and you know it.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:00 am

theHotHead wrote:
UFGN wrote:Show me some wrongdoings and I'll condemn them.

I don't think winter fuel payments is a good area to target for cuts. But I do think their tax policy will be better overall for working and poor people than the Tories would deliver and have delivered. Looking forward with interest to the budget when they'll probably raise CGT and or inheritance tax....better that than taxes on working people.

And yes, I'm sorry but the Tory filth have left us in unimaginable debt despite years of austerity. We're paying something like ten times the justice department budget just to cover debt interest. Think what that actually means. Ten times all the money we spend on prisons, courts and probation. On debt interest. They caused that.

I'm not even a Labour man btw. I am a Lib Dem who understands that the centre left had to unite to get the Tories out. Hopefully this new unified approach to centre left politics will last long term.

I just bloody did, but you are caveating your condemnation, its bullcrap and you know it.


Condemnation?

Give it a rest

We’ve just had a government that stole billions of pounds, doubled street homelessness, and caused food banks to become an actual thing in this country in the 21st century. Where were you then? But some, not all, pensioners will have to forego a £300 payment and you’re immediately right here grifting and hollering

Stop wasting my time with your selective, biased bullshit

By the way, called it back in February. Congratulations on being easier to read than Spot's Birthday

UFGN wrote:This thread is going to be jokes when labour get in

All the Silent "Centrists" who barely managed a squeak while the Tory animals have butchered the country will be falling over themselves in here to jump on any and every Labour fault.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:44 pm

I have to admit, I don't trust Labour not to turn towns into Labour run sht pits like Sadiq Khan who is literally like the modern day Sherriff of Nottingham........but I guess that's why I voted Lib Dem in the end.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:55 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:I have to admit, I don't trust Labour not to turn towns into Labour run sht pits like Sadiq Khan who is literally like the modern day Sherriff of Nottingham........but I guess that's why I voted Lib Dem in the end.


Statements like this make barely any sense

There’s a reason I rarely talk about local politics. Local authorities rely so heavily on national policy that it’s barely relevant

Take any random borough for example

Almost all their problems from housing to crime to business issues is vastly more connected to central government than the local authorities.
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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:09 pm

Labour are in power by default.
They got far less votes this time around than under Corybn.
Starmer is probably the most pathetic PM the country has ever had, if only slightly more competent than the raft of Tory twats that handed power to each other like a hot potato.
He'll f**k things up almost certainly.
Already major signs of a deeply flawed ideologue who will simply divide the country.
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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:24 pm

Starmer is already the most divisive PM in our history.
Pouring fuel on the fire of riots over dead children instead of de-escalating.
Zero leadership.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:36 pm

There is no room for nicely nicely touchy feely garbage with this rioting scum.

They need to be shut down and locked up.

No room for violence like this on our streets

There has been looting, burning of buildings, attacks on police. There is nothing to be said except stop the violence and criminal damage. Go home or go to jail, and grow the fk up.
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Re: British Politics

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:50 pm

A leader would recognise the root cause for unrest and address it - instead of smearing everyone who has an issue with illegal immigration as 'far right'.
Lazy stuff from Starmer - at best - but in reality, really shite leadership.
Of course the violence has to stop, but focusing on that alone and ignoring the key issue confirms that Starmer is not fit to lead - which is what the election really revealed with support dropping for Labour. Only 1 in 3 people voted for the guy. He should remember that and take it into account in his language and approach.

Less than 2 months in and the idiot already has the streets of the UK in turmoil.
What a mess.
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