Va-Va-Voom wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Jedi wrote:It's not that it can't be done. It's that it shouldn't be done.
Why would you use taxpayer money to subsidize rich people going to college? If you're well off and you can afford to pay for college, you should. How about you deal with the 500k homeless people first?
What??
In your preference then the only people hurt are poor people, the very people who if smart enough deserve to go and who need the help.
Rich people are going regardless because they can afford it.
The whole purpose is to improve social mobility where as you wouldn't do fk all to help it, proving your just a sheep, slogan screamer who doesn't actually put any thought in.
What you should of said is if any students have parents with a wage of 100k total (depending on where they live) then they have to pay.
Your way is simply status quo leaving rich people with all the opportunity........well done liberal, very progressive.
Agree
jayramfootball wrote:Lol - adding up all the mysterious spikes in the vote count in PA... 600,000 were for Biden and 3,200 for Trump...
It's pretty clear listening today that election rigging did happen - whether it can be proven is another matter.
LMAO wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Lol - adding up all the mysterious spikes in the vote count in PA... 600,000 were for Biden and 3,200 for Trump...
It's pretty clear listening today that election rigging did happen - whether it can be proven is another matter.
If it happened, then it should be easy to prove.
jayramfootball wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Jedi wrote:It's not that it can't be done. It's that it shouldn't be done.
Why would you use taxpayer money to subsidize rich people going to college? If you're well off and you can afford to pay for college, you should. How about you deal with the 500k homeless people first?
What??
In your preference then the only people hurt are poor people, the very people who if smart enough deserve to go and who need the help.
Rich people are going regardless because they can afford it.
The whole purpose is to improve social mobility where as you wouldn't do fk all to help it, proving your just a sheep, slogan screamer who doesn't actually put any thought in.
What you should of said is if any students have parents with a wage of 100k total (depending on where they live) then they have to pay.
Your way is simply status quo leaving rich people with all the opportunity........well done liberal, very progressive.
This is one of those rare occasions that I agree with Bernie Sanders - partially.
Tax payer funded college for all... BUT one huge caveat.
Only the most talented should go to college and there should be about 5% of the courses currently available. Get rid of all the nonsense degrees and tax payer fund the education of talented people who will fill up highly skilled professional jobs that will better the whole of society and advance the nation.
jayramfootball wrote:LMAO wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Lol - adding up all the mysterious spikes in the vote count in PA... 600,000 were for Biden and 3,200 for Trump...
It's pretty clear listening today that election rigging did happen - whether it can be proven is another matter.
If it happened, then it should be easy to prove.
Democrats are being accused of destroying evidence in the audit trail.
The details on the voting machines is very troubling.
I really don't know if ANY of what is being claimed is true or not - but my opinion having listened to the witnesses and also seen the data is that the election was indeed rigged. Just my opinion.
I get that Biden will have received a big advantage in mail in votes, but the count of those was actually done first - Biden took a huge lead in PA - then Trump hauled it all back with in person voting... before hundreds of thousands of votes appear in the night at almost 100% for Biden. In itself that seems extremely odd.
What is the explanation for spikes totalling 600k votes at nearly 100% Biden?
DiamondGooner wrote:Jedi wrote:It's not that it can't be done. It's that it shouldn't be done.
Why would you use taxpayer money to subsidize rich people going to college? If you're well off and you can afford to pay for college, you should. How about you deal with the 500k homeless people first?
What??
In your preference then the only people hurt are poor people, the very people who if smart enough deserve to go and who need the help.
Rich people are going regardless because they can afford it.
The whole purpose is to improve social mobility where as you wouldn't do fk all to help it, proving your just a sheep, slogan screamer who doesn't actually put any thought in.
What you should of said is if any students have parents with a wage of 100k total (depending on where they live) then they have to pay.
Your way is simply status quo leaving rich people with all the opportunity........well done liberal, very progressive.
LMAO wrote:Trump pardons Flynn. I was wondering what was taking that obese c*** so long.
LMAO wrote:jayramfootball wrote:LMAO wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Lol - adding up all the mysterious spikes in the vote count in PA... 600,000 were for Biden and 3,200 for Trump...
It's pretty clear listening today that election rigging did happen - whether it can be proven is another matter.
If it happened, then it should be easy to prove.
Democrats are being accused of destroying evidence in the audit trail.
The details on the voting machines is very troubling.
I really don't know if ANY of what is being claimed is true or not - but my opinion having listened to the witnesses and also seen the data is that the election was indeed rigged. Just my opinion.
I get that Biden will have received a big advantage in mail in votes, but the count of those was actually done first - Biden took a huge lead in PA - then Trump hauled it all back with in person voting... before hundreds of thousands of votes appear in the night at almost 100% for Biden. In itself that seems extremely odd.
What is the explanation for spikes totalling 600k votes at nearly 100% Biden?
Being accused and being proven are two different things. Someone could accuse the GOP of murdering 1,000,000 Democrats in Pennsylvania before the election so that their votes wouldn't count, but unless they have evidence, it means nothing.
Though, at this point, it literally doesn't matter. Pennsylvania certified the presidential election yesterday and has already chosen its slate of electors. It's over.
The only thing that hasn't been certified are the downballot races, and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court is likely to throw out/overturn the GOP's challenge.
Also, Biden never took a lead in PA until November 5. Trump 'led' before that. I use led in single quotation marks because the PA GOP didn't allow the processing or counting of mail ballots until Election Day, hence the red mirage. I have no idea what this 600k spike is about, unless that's what Trump and his peanut gallery are going with since that was his 'lead' early in the night https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-electio ... anges.html Scroll down to Pennsylvania. There was no spike; it was a gradual chipping away as ballots were counted and results updated.
I'm not claiming fraud definitely didn't occur in PA—there have been two instances, after all—but there is nothing pointing to it on the scale the GOP is cawing about.
Jedi wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Jedi wrote:It's not that it can't be done. It's that it shouldn't be done.
Why would you use taxpayer money to subsidize rich people going to college? If you're well off and you can afford to pay for college, you should. How about you deal with the 500k homeless people first?
What??
In your preference then the only people hurt are poor people, the very people who if smart enough deserve to go and who need the help.
Rich people are going regardless because they can afford it.
The whole purpose is to improve social mobility where as you wouldn't do fk all to help it, proving your just a sheep, slogan screamer who doesn't actually put any thought in.
What you should of said is if any students have parents with a wage of 100k total (depending on where they live) then they have to pay.
Your way is simply status quo leaving rich people with all the opportunity........well done liberal, very progressive.
Why is every single one of your responses to me emotionally charged and filled with insults? Can you calm your rhetoric a bit, especially when I give a take as cold as "rich people should pay for college"? I think it would be to everyone's benefit if we calmed the fvck down because this thread has been a dumpster fire lately.
Now, where did I say I am against ANY policy progressive policy on student loan debt or free college? I simply stated universal free college is dumb because it gives free access to rich people and I don't see a reason for that to happen.
Perhaps make 4 years of college free, but make it for students under a certain income threshold. Again, why the f**k should rich families get free college for their kids when there are people in the US that can't afford basic necessities? It's ridiculous.
Bottom line, when it comes to the economy, common sense goes out the window. It's too complicated for laymen (and I am including myself) to discuss and pretend they know what they're talking about. I prefer to go with the consensus of economists and most agree Bernie's policies are not very good. Not because they want to uphold the status quo but because there are usually better ways to approach these issues but they aren't as catchy as screaming "FREE SHIT" on the debate stage. And not even Biden is absolved from this - most economists agree that his plan to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 is not good.
jayramfootball wrote:Here is a link to a good summary of the election fraud claims and confirmations.
https://hereistheevidence.com/
It's a good site because it is not pro Trump or pro Biden.. seems to just give information and sources, including challenges to claims and some debunking.
Some of the Category 4 issues are pretty significant and need to be cleared up properly IMO before anyone should be sown in as President.
FACT 1: Pennsylvania allows for anyone to check on the status of a mail-in ballot online.
How do I find the status of my ballot?
Contact your county election office: https://www.votespa.com/Resources/Pages ... cials.aspx OR contact the department's Voter Hotline at 1-877-VOTESPA (1-877-868-3772) https://www.fvap.gov/search-offices?state=38
FACT 2: There are numerous online tools for searching obituaries.
FACT 3: CheckYourVote.org used the Pennsylvania Voter Registration Database to identify all voters overs the age of 80, then randomly check those voters for a mail-in ballot status and checked online obituaries.
A sample check of random entries from this data set found 1 error, concluding CheckYourVote.org is accurate up to 99%.
This is literally the exact same link as the previous "fact".FACT 4: There are approximately 40,000 mail-in ballots cast in the name of deceased voters in Pennsylvania, during the 2020 General Election.