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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:58 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:Its litterally the ambassador's job to give his boss the inside track on the government of his host country. If its a negative report, so be it.


While true the language he used was not professional and even more so ........... if your going to use that language you certainly don't allow it to see the light of day.

England needed to set an example here even if it was just to keep up appearances, he should of been sacked for breach of confidentiality at the least.

What if he had leaked something of national security?


Er....he didn't leak it? It was sent by a highly secure email account directly to the foreign office, again, his job.
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:57 pm

UFGN wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:Its litterally the ambassador's job to give his boss the inside track on the government of his host country. If its a negative report, so be it.


While true the language he used was not professional and even more so ........... if your going to use that language you certainly don't allow it to see the light of day.

England needed to set an example here even if it was just to keep up appearances, he should of been sacked for breach of confidentiality at the least.

What if he had leaked something of national security?


Er....he didn't leak it? It was sent by a highly secure email account directly to the foreign office, again, his job.


I know he himself didn't leak it but did he do anything incompetent that it was leaked? sending something like that to the "foreign office" should only be sent to one individual.

Especially if your going to use language like that, you don't send that to multiple recipients.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:43 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:Its litterally the ambassador's job to give his boss the inside track on the government of his host country. If its a negative report, so be it.


While true the language he used was not professional and even more so ........... if your going to use that language you certainly don't allow it to see the light of day.

England needed to set an example here even if it was just to keep up appearances, he should of been sacked for breach of confidentiality at the least.

What if he had leaked something of national security?


Er....he didn't leak it? It was sent by a highly secure email account directly to the foreign office, again, his job.


I know he himself didn't leak it but did he do anything incompetent that it was leaked? sending something like that to the "foreign office" should only be sent to one individual.

Especially if your going to use language like that, you don't send that to multiple recipients.


Youre misunderstanding what happened here. He hasnt just gone "send to all megalolz"

He sent it to his superior, either the foreign secretary or more likely the head of the diplomatic service. Someone with a very high security clearance, eg a Personal Assistant or similar, has taken upon themselves to leak it despite being trusted with sensitive information.
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Re: British Politics

Postby EliteKiller » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:55 pm

Not sure why ridiculous positions are as always being argued here? just to score silly political points ... Sure it's a forum so all views are welcome to create debate but it seems creating a fictitious version of events and then supporting that fiction is becoming the norm .... is this correct?

A UK Diplomat made offensive comments about the leader of the country he was employed to negotiate with

Said UK Diplomat put these offensive comments down in writing and circulated them to his bosses

Some c*** leaked said documents

UK diplomat recognized that his position had become untenable and resigned his post

Does anyone deny that this is what happened? ... So given those events that raises two questions

Was the diplomat right to resign? - Seems to me this was his decision to make and he's explained his reasons ....

Who the f**k leaked FO documents? - A far bigger issue and something that the government should be all over ....
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Re: British Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:59 pm

UFGN wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:Its litterally the ambassador's job to give his boss the inside track on the government of his host country. If its a negative report, so be it.


While true the language he used was not professional and even more so ........... if your going to use that language you certainly don't allow it to see the light of day.

England needed to set an example here even if it was just to keep up appearances, he should of been sacked for breach of confidentiality at the least.

What if he had leaked something of national security?


Er....he didn't leak it? It was sent by a highly secure email account directly to the foreign office, again, his job.


I know he himself didn't leak it but did he do anything incompetent that it was leaked? sending something like that to the "foreign office" should only be sent to one individual.

Especially if your going to use language like that, you don't send that to multiple recipients.


Youre misunderstanding what happened here. He hasnt just gone "send to all megalolz"

He sent it to his superior, either the foreign secretary or more likely the head of the diplomatic service. Someone with a very high security clearance, eg a Personal Assistant or similar, has taken upon themselves to leak it despite being trusted with sensitive information.


Surely then charges should be being pressed on the individual, I'm not sure how people have access to each others email accounts but whatever.

Either way the whole thing is an embarrassment, and we as a country are doing this act on a regular basis.

We're embarrassing ourselves in Europe, embarrassing ourselves in America.

Its just not good enough.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:49 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:Its litterally the ambassador's job to give his boss the inside track on the government of his host country. If its a negative report, so be it.


While true the language he used was not professional and even more so ........... if your going to use that language you certainly don't allow it to see the light of day.

England needed to set an example here even if it was just to keep up appearances, he should of been sacked for breach of confidentiality at the least.

What if he had leaked something of national security?


Er....he didn't leak it? It was sent by a highly secure email account directly to the foreign office, again, his job.


I know he himself didn't leak it but did he do anything incompetent that it was leaked? sending something like that to the "foreign office" should only be sent to one individual.

Especially if your going to use language like that, you don't send that to multiple recipients.


Youre misunderstanding what happened here. He hasnt just gone "send to all megalolz"

He sent it to his superior, either the foreign secretary or more likely the head of the diplomatic service. Someone with a very high security clearance, eg a Personal Assistant or similar, has taken upon themselves to leak it despite being trusted with sensitive information.


Surely then charges should be being pressed on the individual, I'm not sure how people have access to each others email accounts but whatever.

Either way the whole thing is an embarrassment, and we as a country are doing this act on a regular basis.

We're embarrassing ourselves in Europe, embarrassing ourselves in America.

Its just not good enough.


The number of suspects must be small. I hope charges are brought. Its either the recipient or one of their close staff, or one of a very small number of Embassy staff, or the CIA somehow hacked it
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:36 am

It'll be brushed under the carpet.

Nobody wants this to drag on.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Jedi » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:31 pm

In other news, the Iranians captured your tankers.
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Re: British Politics

Postby UFGN » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Jedi wrote:In other news, the Iranians captured your tankers.


Could get nasty

We have an aircraft carrier in the area
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Jedi wrote:In other news, the Iranians captured your tankers.


Unless there is a good reason this is an act of piracy.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Jedi » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:45 pm

UFGN wrote:
Jedi wrote:In other news, the Iranians captured your tankers.


Could get nasty

We have an aircraft carrier in the area

Very much. And even if no retaliation happens, this conflict with Iran is heading in the wrong direction.This is why i thought giving Trump credit for stopping that military strike was insanely short sighted.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:48 pm

They are becoming more of a rogue nation every day.
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Re: British Politics

Postby StLGooner » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:53 pm

We shot down one of their drones the other day too. I'm sure in response to shooting one of ours down.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Phil71 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:56 pm

I wonder if they realise that Britain is fairly experienced in Naval warfare.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Jedi » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:01 pm

StLGooner wrote:We shot down one of their drones the other day too. I'm sure in response to shooting one of ours down.

Apparently the UK seized one of Iran's tankers a few days ago that was heading towards Syria and ignoring EU sanctions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48865030
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