British Politics

[Emeryates]

Corbyn is a principled consistent individual, to claim he's a threat to National security is massive overreach. He has always sat down with terrorists / freedom fighters take your pick, but there's never been any evidence he's disclosed sensitive information. His failing is that he's a weak and ineffective Leader, and yes these two things are linked. When you see yourself as an arbitrator then you can't have or display favoritism to one side or the other, remaining impartial is the key skill in arbitration. However remaining impartial in politics is called sitting-on-the-fence whilst in some areas Corbyn is very clear, mostly social issues, in other major political matters very notably Brexit he's about as clear as West Country cider ...

His inability to focus the Labour party in major policy areas is why their support is collapsing - not entirely his fault, he was rejected as a Leader by 75% of the MP's who know how politics work - Momentum and the Unions saw him nominated with the rank and following their lead, that was a huge mistake and Labour have suffered for it ... if Harold Wilson had been around today he have wiped the floor with May / Boris or any other Tory leader.

He's a threat to national security, because he's naive and too trusting. He might not willingly disclose information, but you can bet that he'd leak any information that showed us in a bad light

[UFGN]

To the best of my knowledge a LOTO has never previously been treated in this way by any government

Its unacceptable political game playing

[Emeryates]

To the best of my knowledge a LOTO has never previously been treated in this way by any government

Its unacceptable political game playing

Which leader of the opposition has taken money from Putin and Iran funded TV? And sat with Hezbollah and called them our friends? Or Hamas? Or the IRA?

[UFGN]

To the best of my knowledge a LOTO has never previously been treated in this way by any government

Its unacceptable political game playing

Which leader of the opposition has taken money from Putin and Iran funded TV? And sat with Hezbollah and called them our friends? Or Hamas? Or the IRA?

Youre not intetested in listening to reason

Ive just been over that and you carry on like nothing has been said

Youre boring mate

[Phil71]

The government will have been strongly advised by those in the know within the UK state that Corbyn is a security risk.

It’s not political at all.

And I have absolutely no doubt that they are 100% correct.

[DiamondGooner]

To the best of my knowledge a LOTO has never previously been treated in this way by any government

Its unacceptable political game playing

Which leader of the opposition has taken money from Putin and Iran funded TV? And sat with Hezbollah and called them our friends? Or Hamas? Or the IRA?

Sorry but there's nothing wrong with Hamas.

They attack a group that stole their fkin country by force and blow up their women and children with superior weaponry .......... Hamas fire back, is that an issue to you?

They are at defacto war with Israel, I'm so sick of this bias / racist positioning of morality that's done by the media and swallowed whole by people like you.

Because your basically saying Jews can just walk in, invade a country and then blow up little Arab kids and women but Hamas can't fight back ............ why, because their Arabs and they don't have the same human rights or something?

Same thing in Iraq during the war, Iraqi's can die in the thousands but its fine because its white Americans doing it so it must be ok, you know because Saddam didn't give up those WMD's he never had?

Fk off.

[Royal Gooner]

Except Hamas are listed as a terrorist group by the UK, US and EU?

[Phil71]

The Israelis fire on targets identified as being used by terrorists. And they do it in response to rockets and bullets being fired from Palestinian territories into their own territory.

To say that Hammas are only firing at Israel in response to being attacked is completely inaccurate.

[UFGN]

The Israelis fire on targets identified as being used by terrorists. And they do it in response to rockets and bullets being fired from Palestinian territories into their own territory.

To say that Hammas are only firing at Israel in response to being attacked is completely inaccurate.

I'm sure all Israel's weapons are dead accurate yeah?

The way Isreal treats the Palistinians is disgusting. Rockets aside, bombs aside, their living conditions are awful. Israel, the much more powerful party in this, allows people who it has huge influence and power over to live in shithole conditions, when it could easily help them with very little effort. I'm of Jewish descent and proud of it. But Isreals behavior is indefensible.

Their contempt for the Palistinians suggests to me that they probably don't give two fucks what they hit when they fire into the Palistinian territories

Should the Palistinians be firing rockets? Of course not. But at least frame the situation correctly

[jayramfootball]

To the best of my knowledge a LOTO has never previously been treated in this way by any government

Its unacceptable political game playing

Which leader of the opposition has taken money from Putin and Iran funded TV? And sat with Hezbollah and called them our friends? Or Hamas? Or the IRA?

They attack a group that stole their fkin country by force and blow up their women and children with superior weaponry ..........

It's just a little more complicated than that.

[DiamondGooner]

Except Hamas are listed as a terrorist group by the UK, US and EU?

............. and the UK's and US's corrupt Gov't's are God now right?

Were the Jews terrorists when a small militarized group of them backed by US funds and weaponry immigrated into Palestine and then took over the country and have and are still ousting Palestinian's out of their own lands?

The Israelis fire on targets identified as being used by terrorists. And they do it in response to rockets and bullets being fired from Palestinian territories into their own territory.

To say that Hammas are only firing at Israel in response to being attacked is completely inaccurate.

Their territory? ........... you mean the lands they stole and are still stealing?

Also you say they only fire on terrorists? last I checked the Palestinians didn't have Airbases, Navies and big Army bases, they are among the regular population, there are pictures of dead kids and civilians available online if you need to see them.

The Palestinians do fire at Israel ............ because on a daily basis Israel continues to take more Palestinian territory the same way they've been doing for 50 years.

[Phil71]

The Israelis fire on targets identified as being used by terrorists. And they do it in response to rockets and bullets being fired from Palestinian territories into their own territory.

To say that Hammas are only firing at Israel in response to being attacked is completely inaccurate.

I'm sure all Israel's weapons are dead accurate yeah?

The way Isreal treats the Palistinians is disgusting. Rockets aside, bombs aside, their living conditions are awful. Israel, the much more powerful party in this, allows people who it has huge influence and power over to live in shithole conditions, when it could easily help them with very little effort. I'm of Jewish descent and proud of it. But Isreals behavior is indefensible.

Their contempt for the Palistinians suggests to me that they probably don't give two fucks what they hit when they fire into the Palistinian territories

Should the Palistinians be firing rockets? Of course not. But at least frame the situation correctly

The contempt cuts both ways.

And of course you’re going to get civilian casualties when terrorists use civilian neighbourhoods as a base from which to launch their attacks on Israel - and deliberately targeted at Israeli civilian targets I might add.

Israel has been under attack from Arab countries since its birth as a nation. They don’t accept its existence. They strive for its destruction.

My view is fairly simple. Arabs can live safely within the state of Israel, or they can live safely in another Arab state. That’s their choice. But I’m a firm supporter of the state of Israel. For thousands of years, Jews in Europe and Asia have been persecuted and forced to move from one country to another. Of course, the end game for this was what happened in the 30s and 40s, where save for a few who were granted asylum, the rest were abandoned to face a grim fate. Nobody would take them. That alone is justification for the existence of the state of Israel.

And since it’s formation, Israel has taken many thousands of Jews from various places in the world where they were being persecuted or facing some other life threatening situation.

Yes the situation is not ideal, but they are not the aggressors here. They are defending their territory and their citizens.

And the Palestinian response to any offers of aid from Israel has always been to reject it. I’d suggest if the leaders of the paramilitary organisations want better living conditions for their people, the first step should be to stop firing rockets at Israel.

[Phil71]

Except Hamas are listed as a terrorist group by the UK, US and EU?

............. and the UK's and US's corrupt Gov't's are God now right?

Were the Jews terrorists when a small militarized group of them backed by US funds and weaponry immigrated into Palestine and then took over the country and have and are still ousting Palestinian's out of their own lands?

The Israelis fire on targets identified as being used by terrorists. And they do it in response to rockets and bullets being fired from Palestinian territories into their own territory.

To say that Hammas are only firing at Israel in response to being attacked is completely inaccurate.

Their territory? ........... you mean the lands they stole and are still stealing?

Also you say they only fire on terrorists? last I checked the Palestinians didn't have Airbases, Navies and big Army bases, they are among the regular population, there are pictures of dead kids and civilians available online if you need to see them.

The Palestinians do fire at Israel ............ because on a daily basis Israel continues to take more Palestinian territory the same way they've been doing for 50 years.

They didn’t steal the land. There was a civil war and they won.

And the reason they are forced to push the border back is to lengthen the distance between Palestinian rockets and Israeli citizens.

[DiamondGooner]

Your statement is simply wrong.

They're not the aggressors?

Daily their bulldozers are mowing down lands which are supposed to be Palestinian lands and then they erect settlements shrinking Palestine more and more and they force people off their lands at gun point.

Secondly you wouldn't be saying that if the Jews rocked up on England and claimed it.

Jews had been living in Palestine for thousands of years with no issues, the trouble started when invading non-historical Jews from Europe migrated over there and then declared an existing country as their own and invaded.

You say no one "took them in after WWII" funny that, that's exactly what Palestine did and how they got over their in the first place ........... to thank the Palestinians for this hospitality they then turned around and took over the country at gunpoint.

Your views on what Israels policy and agenda is, is viewed through rose tinted glasses.

They stole a country using murder and force and have been slowly expanding the country to push the Palestinians out altogether.

Its all fair and good saying your ok with it, what would you say if that was your family and country?

[DiamondGooner]

Except Hamas are listed as a terrorist group by the UK, US and EU?

............. and the UK's and US's corrupt Gov't's are God now right?

Were the Jews terrorists when a small militarized group of them backed by US funds and weaponry immigrated into Palestine and then took over the country and have and are still ousting Palestinian's out of their own lands?

The Israelis fire on targets identified as being used by terrorists. And they do it in response to rockets and bullets being fired from Palestinian territories into their own territory.

To say that Hammas are only firing at Israel in response to being attacked is completely inaccurate.

Their territory? ........... you mean the lands they stole and are still stealing?

Also you say they only fire on terrorists? last I checked the Palestinians didn't have Airbases, Navies and big Army bases, they are among the regular population, there are pictures of dead kids and civilians available online if you need to see them.

The Palestinians do fire at Israel ............ because on a daily basis Israel continues to take more Palestinian territory the same way they've been doing for 50 years.

They didn’t steal the land. There was a civil war and they won.

And the reason they are forced to push the border back is to lengthen the distance between Palestinian rockets and Israeli citizens.

If you believe that then you'll believe anything.

Palestinian Jews were not the ones who caused the issues it was the Ashkenazi European Jews who migrated there with American backing .......... a civil war with people who had been in the country for a few years?

If they are trying to push the border back to get distance from rockets (which is a laughable notion as rockets can go for miles) then why are they building settlements on those "borders".

You have a bias opinion and your forming attempted "reason and logic" through that bias ........... hence why what your saying is not the reality.