EliteKiller wrote:UFGN wrote:Don't come it with me about scoring political points. The Right wing media have been f***ing vile re Grenfell. If you can't accept that then there's no hope for you.
There's something very wrong about those figures. They don't add up at all. There's a lack of common sense in presuming that because someone is an illegal immigrant that they're necessarily underground. For example there are so many different statuses that an immigrant, both legal or illegal can have
I've lived in London council accommodation for most of my life and I don't recognise those figures whatsoever
I told you who provided that information ... so if it's wrong challenge them ... they are a left wing group supported by JC and Momentum so that should be a reliable source for you ....
I also lived in rented London accommodation for years, even a Surbiton tower block for a while, the place I stayed at on the Railton Road had eight two bedroom flats, there were supposed to be a maximum thirty-two tenants .... we had five in our flat and that was considered luxury, No. 3a had 6 adults and 6 children, and the rest were all sardines as well .... I reckon some nights there were 60 plus people staying there .... and that was by no means an exception, when you're paying landlord rents you need loads of tenants just to afford it .... even in
'low-cost' housing when you're on minimum wage or social you still need to pack your flat with as many bodies as you can ....
What vile RW press rhetoric? every paper without exception got behind the victims ... show me a headline that says any different ... I might have missed the odd editorial, but in my recollection at least 90% were in support of the victims .... the council and the management got slammed ....
You're not providing examples of illegal immigration, only overcrowding. That is absolutely true that places in London are overcrowded. You're questioning the amount of people who live in London on that basis? Well I think you'll find (l know you'll find) that the census accurately records that and it's taken into account
In the 30s which was my era for comparison, do you reckon overcrowding was any less? No. And probably in exactly the same areas as now.
The press; if you don't want to see it, you won't see it. At every opportunity the residents are labelled as feckless, criminals, "lefties", chancers.
Off the top of my head five people had been put up in a hotel who were nearly killed in the fire but were not residents. Five! The waste of public money apparently warranted a whole article.
A few scumbags got found out to be lying about being there. Every opportunity to report on those incidents, a whole article each time.
Fake neutrality in reporting that some survivors had been placed in luxury apartments..... the thinly veiled intention to create a hate fest in the comment section for their thick readership.
(All of the above..... you guessed it, the Daily Mail)
Then you have the Daily Express. My word.
And for extra special false flag sympathy, breitbart.
The agenda is clear and it is menacing. The residents are trouble makers, ungrateful and foreign. They don't matter. They've been treated better than they deserve and we're going to keep chipping away at their character so that there's no sympathy left.
Why? Well firstly, polotics of envy etc
And secondly is more sinister. The enquiries have barely really begun and what matters most is to undermine sympathy to stop awkward questions and bury negative findings
I refer you to Hillsborough and to the Marchioness disaster
It's happening again right in front of your eyes