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Re: British Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:32 am

Callum wrote:
GoonerAlexis wrote:Let's see who the Conservatives have helped
Rising employment
The minimum wage
Gay rights
Flexible zero hours contracts to help students earn
Smaller businesses booming due to lower tax.
Self employed people earning more
IT sector booming due to lower tax
Best of the cream of talent coming to UK universities due to Universities being well funded by Tuition fees.

I don't have the energy to go into the other topics but it's worth remembering whilst Cameron's government introduced gay marriage legislation to the Commons, more Tory MPs voted against it than for it. It only passed because of support from Labour and the Liberal Democrats.


Because Cameron 3 line whipped them instead of giving them a free vote as he should have.
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Re: British Politics

Postby Callum » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:33 pm

Royal Gooner wrote:
Callum wrote:
GoonerAlexis wrote:Let's see who the Conservatives have helped
Rising employment
The minimum wage
Gay rights
Flexible zero hours contracts to help students earn
Smaller businesses booming due to lower tax.
Self employed people earning more
IT sector booming due to lower tax
Best of the cream of talent coming to UK universities due to Universities being well funded by Tuition fees.

I don't have the energy to go into the other topics but it's worth remembering whilst Cameron's government introduced gay marriage legislation to the Commons, more Tory MPs voted against it than for it. It only passed because of support from Labour and the Liberal Democrats.


Because Cameron 3 line whipped them instead of giving them a free vote as he should have.

Did he? I always remember it being a free vote and he had to call upon Miliband and Labour to come help him pass it through. Do you have a source?
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Re: British Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:08 pm

Callum wrote:
Royal Gooner wrote:
Callum wrote:
GoonerAlexis wrote:Let's see who the Conservatives have helped
Rising employment
The minimum wage
Gay rights
Flexible zero hours contracts to help students earn
Smaller businesses booming due to lower tax.
Self employed people earning more
IT sector booming due to lower tax
Best of the cream of talent coming to UK universities due to Universities being well funded by Tuition fees.

I don't have the energy to go into the other topics but it's worth remembering whilst Cameron's government introduced gay marriage legislation to the Commons, more Tory MPs voted against it than for it. It only passed because of support from Labour and the Liberal Democrats.


Because Cameron 3 line whipped them instead of giving them a free vote as he should have.

Did he? I always remember it being a free vote and he had to call upon Miliband and Labour to come help him pass it through. Do you have a source?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... lions.html

And incidentally, Labour whipped their MPs too.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2012/09/l ... illiberal/
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Re: British Politics

Postby Callum » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:24 am

Royal Gooner wrote:
Callum wrote:
Royal Gooner wrote:
Callum wrote:
GoonerAlexis wrote:Let's see who the Conservatives have helped
Rising employment
The minimum wage
Gay rights
Flexible zero hours contracts to help students earn
Smaller businesses booming due to lower tax.
Self employed people earning more
IT sector booming due to lower tax
Best of the cream of talent coming to UK universities due to Universities being well funded by Tuition fees.

I don't have the energy to go into the other topics but it's worth remembering whilst Cameron's government introduced gay marriage legislation to the Commons, more Tory MPs voted against it than for it. It only passed because of support from Labour and the Liberal Democrats.


Because Cameron 3 line whipped them instead of giving them a free vote as he should have.

Did he? I always remember it being a free vote and he had to call upon Miliband and Labour to come help him pass it through. Do you have a source?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... lions.html

And incidentally, Labour whipped their MPs too.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2012/09/l ... illiberal/


That article doesn't say he whipped the votes, it just says the majority of them voted opposite the way of Cameron.
Gay marriage

The Prime Minister suffered one of his biggest rebellions over gay marriage with 134 of his MPs voting against in May last year.

Mr Cameron was in the Commons to hear that the bill had passed by 366 to 161 and despite the rebellion there was applause in the House when the result was announced.

Afterwards Mr Cameron said that there were “young boys in schools today who are gay” who will “stand a little bit taller today and I am proud of the fact that that has happened.”

Nicky Morgan, the Education Secretary and equalities minister, voted against the move but has since said she has changed her mind and would back it if voting again.
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Re: British Politics

Postby GoonerAlexis » Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:21 pm

I wonder if male politicians posted photos of young women they liked, whether it'd be as okay as when females do it?
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Re: British Politics

Postby Reverend Gooner » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:51 am

Please please please please please to all the Gods can we not have any of that 'sue the government if policies impact on a companies profits under a secret court' bullshit in the US/UK trade deal or we are screwed. Brexit laws need to be made without swords like that hanging over our neck and there would be nothing worse than voting to get our sovereignty back and then just handing it to multi national corporations.

Nothing as well that further forces American health companies into our own system.
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