American Politics

[CukiZeGerman]

Though, one has to say that Trump's "ban" was absolute bollocks.

[UFGN]

The definition you gave if I remember correctly was ...............

"1.3 A group or set of people or things with a common feature or features."

That's what you quoted right?

Tell me how that equates to religion?

Features as in "physical features" does not equate to religion in any shape or form.

........ and even if "features" is mean't to be more expansive than just physical that's a far cry from your claim that its saying "same beliefs" ....... which its not.

Try digging yourself out of that one without resorting to base insults and deflection if you can.

Yes, "feature" could mean a religion in that context. Of course it could. I think that's perfectly clear unless for agenda driven reasons you choose not to see it.

Well if it was perfectly clear then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

What agenda do you think I have other than pointing out the fact that your trying to re-write the Dictionary version of the word racism.

I have no reason as half my family is Arabic to stick up for Islamaphobia dressed us as racism as I'm sure you can appreciate however if what your saying is inaccurate I'm going to point it out.

The only weight your holding onto that "your" definition is correct even according to the Dictionary description you've given is that you personally have decided to take liberty beyond your remit with the word "feature".

You do realise that the description you quoted may very well be alluding to physical features only right?

Definition: Race
A group of people of common ancestry, distinguished from others by physical characteristics, such as hair type, colour of eyes and skin, stature, etc. Principal races are Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.

Another one from the Oxford Dictionary:
"Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
‘people of all races, colours, and creeds’"

The definition of race clarified (no mention of religion of beliefs) so to be Racist is to harbor resentment based purely on "race".

Sorry nil pois for you on this point.

Also the fact that 90% of posters are telling you otherwise yet your sticking your head in the sand rather than saying those magic words so foreign to you "sorry I was wrong".

If you were saying "Trumps policy is saying its targeting muslims but obviously has a racist driven agenda targeting muslims of a certain race in particular over others" then you would be on to something.

The examples you gave specifically point to "physical" characteristics

The definition I gave from the OED specifically does not, while being alongside others which do... that distinction is deliberate.

In any case it is my point that I reject semantics regarding the exact definition out of hand because where the word is used in common language to mean various things, it is valid for all those uses.

A dictionary is not instructive, it's reactive

More importantly, the argument over what is or isn't racist, when it is undeniably prejudiced, is a smoke screen to deflect criticism of bigotry..... So I don't accept it at all. Moral of the story is, don't stand for discrimination of any kind, and don't play semantics to dodge the issue

[DiamondGooner]

Though, one has to say that Trump's "ban" was absolute bollocks.

Agreed, gesture politics at its finest.

Though Trump means well to his supporters I do question some of his common sense decision making, it is rather amateurish to say the least.

He's like a big kid kicking around in the sand pit, showing the difference between running a company and running Washington ........ or as he's found out Washington runs you.

Trump needs to get smarter on how he navigates these muddy waters if he wants to get things done, he'll succeed if he drops the gesture Right driven policies and gets on with implementing the policies that help Americans in general.

I'm all for getting things done but him wading in with his size 12's has only achieved kicking up a hornets nest.

[UFGN]

Christ that Milo bloke is a basic to put it mildly

Just a Katie Hopkins level loudmouth with a nice haircut. Why does he get so much attention? It's embarrassing.

[RowdyRoddyPoppins]

Christ that Milo bloke is a basic to put it mildly

Just a Katie Hopkins level loudmouth with a nice haircut. Why does he get so much attention? It's embarrassing.

You would f**k him, don't deny it.

[Admin010]

thanks

[Pudpop]

thanks

No problem buddy

[Angelito]

I've maintained that Trump's win shows how democratic America really is. It's a compliment.

That said, look at all his decisions since. President Steve Bannon is running the show. Those who chipped with dollars are in Trump's cabinet. This is a guy who's never read a single book in his life and inherited £200m from his Papa. He's just realizing that he wasn't elected to be King of America.

Trump has been criticizing Obamacare for nearly 6 years. What does he do after being elected? Well, basically the new policy is - if you have money, you're covered. Boom! Okay..

Elizabeth Warren or anyone will have field day come 2020.

[EliteKiller]

Elizabeth Warren or anyone will have field day come 2020.

May I refer you to 2016 "Clinton will win in a landslide" - "Trump has less than a 1% chance" .... hmmmmmmm

[Angelito]

Elizabeth Warren or anyone will have field day come 2020.

May I refer you to 2016 "Clinton will win in a landslide" - "Trump has less than a 1% chance" .... hmmmmmmm

This is the problem.

He wasn't Prez at the time. And, we need to understand context.

[Pudpop]

Elizabeth Warren or anyone will have field day come 2020.

May I refer you to 2016 "Clinton will win in a landslide" - "Trump has less than a 1% chance" .... hmmmmmmm

Trump did have a less than 1% chance, him winning the election doesn't change that

[Royal Gooner]

Elizabeth Warren or anyone will have field day come 2020.

If Warren does run, we know what her campaign song will be!


(to those who don't get it, it is a reference to her lying about having Native American ancestry.)

[LMAO]

Republicare bill pulled

Trump is such a deal closer though

[Angelito]

Deal-maker man.

And he blamed Dems for all of this.

[Va-Va-Voom]

Mexico will pay for a wall - fail

Travel ban - fail

Repeal Obamacare - fail

Ties to Russia - pending

Loool, just two months in office and his administration is already a disaster.