Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Rockape]

I haven't read any of the posts last few pages.

You should…..it’s quite entertaining!

[DiamondGooner]

A virus they started?

Lol what

I haven't read any of the posts last few pages. But anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are hilarious if that's their view on this

You see this is the problem.

I get it when people don't believe or doubt the extreme anti-vaxxers who don't do their research but Ach is an example of the Pro-vaxxers who are exactly the same.

Ach how do you not know the widely accepted view not just of the general public but of members of the Gov't of America, Scientists etc that this virus was created in a Wu Han laboratory???

Like, how do you not know this?

Its been all over the news since the beginning when Covid started in Wu Han and there was a team of scientists, Dr's and specialists set up by the American Gov't who went to Wu Han to investigate.

[DiamondGooner]

DG has become the William Wallace of the anti-vac movement.

'They can take our temperature... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!'

You may laugh but I hope you peeps have your own houses,
Like the Wallace years property will become for the extreme wealthy only, the world has changed just as the virus has, every economy is suffering which is what every super rich investor loves there is always opportunity for the filthy rich in a poor performing world economy

Agreed.

Its one thing I've noticed over the years, the key to the rich and successful isn't just to make money in normal times because the markets are stable, the key and when they make their money booms is in times of disaster when the markets either crash or go nuts because the spikes in the market make it so either buying or selling have profit hikes.

In times of a market crash for example, those with large reserves of cash or credit can buy up everything on the cheap, knowing full well that inflation will kick in and the value of what they bought particularly in property and stocks will rise over time.

My house has 80k profit in it from the price I bought it at if I sold it today and I've only owned mine for 5 years.

[Santi]

A virus they started?

Lol what

I haven't read any of the posts last few pages. But anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are hilarious if that's their view on this

You see this is the problem.

I get it when people don't believe or doubt the extreme anti-vaxxers who don't do their research but Ach is an example of the Pro-vaxxers who are exactly the same.

Ach how do you not know the widely accepted view not just of the general public but of members of the Gov't of America, Scientists etc that this virus was created in a Wu Han laboratory???

Like, how do you not know this?

Its been all over the news since the beginning when Covid started in Wu Han and there was a team of scientists, Dr's and specialists set up by the American Gov't who went to Wu Han to investigate.

Do you have to regularly wash your tin foil hat or is it self cleansing?

[Jedi]

A virus they started?

Lol what

I haven't read any of the posts last few pages. But anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are hilarious if that's their view on this

You see this is the problem.

I get it when people don't believe or doubt the extreme anti-vaxxers who don't do their research but Ach is an example of the Pro-vaxxers who are exactly the same.

Ach how do you not know the widely accepted view not just of the general public but of members of the Gov't of America, Scientists etc that this virus was created in a Wu Han laboratory???

Like, how do you not know this?

Its been all over the news since the beginning when Covid started in Wu Han and there was a team of scientists, Dr's and specialists set up by the American Gov't who went to Wu Han to investigate.

Misinformation.

There's no widely accepted view.

From 2 days ago:

"Intelligence community failed to find conclusive COVID origin; experts split on why"
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/intell ... s-reaction

[DiamondGooner]

A virus they started?

Lol what

I haven't read any of the posts last few pages. But anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are hilarious if that's their view on this

You see this is the problem.

I get it when people don't believe or doubt the extreme anti-vaxxers who don't do their research but Ach is an example of the Pro-vaxxers who are exactly the same.

Ach how do you not know the widely accepted view not just of the general public but of members of the Gov't of America, Scientists etc that this virus was created in a Wu Han laboratory???

Like, how do you not know this?

Its been all over the news since the beginning when Covid started in Wu Han and there was a team of scientists, Dr's and specialists set up by the American Gov't who went to Wu Han to investigate.

Do you have to regularly wash your tin foil hat or is it self cleansing?

How is it possible that you wet wipes haven't heard of this?

Scary stuff, or even worse you dismiss one way or another ............ when you guys know FK ALL!!

I don't claim to know but there are professionals and politicians out there saying it is or probably was etc.

But to say "Tin hat" from a guy who know's fk all is just poor, you don't know any more than I do, do you little man, so why would you be so dissmissive?

This is not MY words ffs, I didn't make this up, this is from what some scientists and US politicians are saying.

"The WHO team that visited Wuhan drew similar conclusions. But its apparent dismissal of the possibility the virus might have leaked accidentally from a laboratory stirred dissent among some scientists.

The laboratory under scrutiny is the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which has studied coronaviruses in bats for more than a decade.

The authors of this new report point out that none of those were, or could have been, manipulated to become Sars-Cov-2. But some scientists do not entirely accept that conclusion, including Prof David Relman, of the US's Stanford University.

"I see this [new report] as a deliberate effort to marshal all the possible information in support of what is a perfectly good hypothesis - natural spillover - but [it's] not balanced and objective," he told BBC News.

"Sars-Cov-2 has not been found in any natural animal host.""

Now if it was the case that this was man made ............. do you expect them to admit it?

That would be the same as me murdering you then handing myself into the authorities.

If all you people believe is what your told then I feel sorry for you.

[DiamondGooner]

A virus they started?

Lol what

I haven't read any of the posts last few pages. But anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are hilarious if that's their view on this

You see this is the problem.

I get it when people don't believe or doubt the extreme anti-vaxxers who don't do their research but Ach is an example of the Pro-vaxxers who are exactly the same.

Ach how do you not know the widely accepted view not just of the general public but of members of the Gov't of America, Scientists etc that this virus was created in a Wu Han laboratory???

Like, how do you not know this?

Its been all over the news since the beginning when Covid started in Wu Han and there was a team of scientists, Dr's and specialists set up by the American Gov't who went to Wu Han to investigate.

Misinformation.

There's no widely accepted view.

From 2 days ago:

"Intelligence community failed to find conclusive COVID origin; experts split on why"
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/intell ... s-reaction

Widely "reported" then ......... I correct "accepted"

Doesn't change that this debate is out there among the higher qualified so its not misinformation at all, just mis-phrased at best.

[Santi]

A virus they started?

Lol what

I haven't read any of the posts last few pages. But anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are hilarious if that's their view on this

You see this is the problem.

I get it when people don't believe or doubt the extreme anti-vaxxers who don't do their research but Ach is an example of the Pro-vaxxers who are exactly the same.

Ach how do you not know the widely accepted view not just of the general public but of members of the Gov't of America, Scientists etc that this virus was created in a Wu Han laboratory???

Like, how do you not know this?

Its been all over the news since the beginning when Covid started in Wu Han and there was a team of scientists, Dr's and specialists set up by the American Gov't who went to Wu Han to investigate.

Do you have to regularly wash your tin foil hat or is it self cleansing?

How is it possible that you wet wipes haven't heard of this?

Scary stuff, or even worse you dismiss one way or another ............ when you guys know FK ALL!!

I don't claim to know but there are professionals and politicians out there saying it is or probably was etc.

But to say "Tin hat" from a guy who know's fk all is just poor, you don't know any more than I do, do you little man, so why would you be so dissmissive?

This is not MY words ffs, I didn't make this up, this is from what some scientists and US politicians are saying.

"The WHO team that visited Wuhan drew similar conclusions. But its apparent dismissal of the possibility the virus might have leaked accidentally from a laboratory stirred dissent among some scientists.

The laboratory under scrutiny is the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which has studied coronaviruses in bats for more than a decade.

The authors of this new report point out that none of those were, or could have been, manipulated to become Sars-Cov-2. But some scientists do not entirely accept that conclusion, including Prof David Relman, of the US's Stanford University.

"I see this [new report] as a deliberate effort to marshal all the possible information in support of what is a perfectly good hypothesis - natural spillover - but [it's] not balanced and objective," he told BBC News.

"Sars-Cov-2 has not been found in any natural animal host.""

Now if it was the case that this was man made ............. do you expect them to admit it?

That would be the same as me murdering you then handing myself into the authorities.

If all you people believe is what your told then I feel sorry for you.

Well the aggression in your response speaks for itself but...

These are not my words either:

Most scientists say SARS-CoV-2 probably has a natural origin, and was transmitted from an animal to humans.

So don't get so upset when you get challenged on something you present as 'widely accepted', you should be more conscious of your words if you are going to get wound up about it.

I wouldn't dispute that there have been a lot of reports and heavy debate over whether it was spread from animals to humans or whether it was leaked from a laboratory. It's simply how you presented it as 'the widely accepted view not just of the general public but of members of the Gov't of America, Scientists etc that this virus was created in a Wu Han laboratory???' which is simply not true.

It might be your accepted view with that tin foil hat of yours on, but it's not been determined by anyone significant in the slightest.

[DiamondGooner]

You know damn well there are politicians and sientists who don't believe this is naturally occuring and that the WuHan lab who admits to studying and experimenting with SARS is looked at as a major suspect.

So when you call me "Tin hat" even when I didn't invent these allegations then expect to get blasted back, its no less than you deserve for being so close minded and dissmissive about something with very legitimate grounds.

This is misinformation .........

"but it's not been determined by anyone significant in the slightest"

Yes it has, its just not been "proven" because you can't prove it, but these people are significant so the only appropiate word you've used is "determined" and even that is undermined by scientists who have said Covid has not been found in any animals occuring naturally, its a copy of the bat virus but Covid has been altered / mutated into its current form.

[Santi]

Same old DG, presents something as gospel then tries to weasel out of it and ignore sources pointing to the opposite.

[Phil71]

Even if it did originate at that Wuhan lab (which I think is a very distinct possibility), I very much doubt that it was deliberately released. It's more likely that a lab worker accidentally contracted it and it spread from there.

And it's not big news that people make money from medicines. They're already making billions every year without having to unleash a deadly virus on the world. Besides, the use of most of the other drugs they produce such as chemotherapy drugs for instance have been put on hold to a significant degree, meaning hospitals and clinics won't have been ordering new stocks of those. It doesn't make sense that drug companies would deliberately create that situation.

[Rockape]

I haven't got much to add to this 'debate', but when i read reports like the one below, I think that I wouldn't want to be hearing of your demise DG, because you refused the vaccine.

https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/ne ... covid.html

[Phil71]

I haven't got much to add to this 'debate', but when i read reports like the one below, I think that I wouldn't want to be hearing of your demise DG, because you refused the vaccine.

https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/ne ... covid.html

One of his final words to his sister...

I wish I had been vaccinated.

[DiamondGooner]

Even if it did originate at that Wuhan lab (which I think is a very distinct possibility), I very much doubt that it was deliberately released. It's more likely that a lab worker accidentally contracted it and it spread from there.

And it's not big news that people make money from medicines. They're already making billions every year without having to unleash a deadly virus on the world. Besides, the use of most of the other drugs they produce such as chemotherapy drugs for instance have been put on hold to a significant degree, meaning hospitals and clinics won't have been ordering new stocks of those. It doesn't make sense that drug companies would deliberately create that situation.

Well no one knows and no one would admit it, the problem with "information" we get these days even ones from so called "credible" sources, we're all subject to what we're told and a lot of "professionals" and "experts" are bought and paid for or selected the same way experts are used in a Court room trial, the defense or the prosecution use the "experts" who agree with their version of events that's why you can have the same case with two experts giving different accounts.

Who know's if it was deliberate? but what we do know is what I mentioned earlier that when crashes or disasters occur the rich jump on the opportunities presented.
Its not just the money that bothers me though, its that this time the Gov't are flexing society controls that reflect that of a Communist nation .......... and they seem very reluctant to let it go.

Because what happened to "Once we get the vaccine it'll be all over?" because loads have just had the vaccine and already they're talking about an October lockdown.

Do you know how many businesses have had to take loans in the lockdown? the banks are fkin rolling in the interest that's to come.
England is forking out millions / billions on Covid related issues and they (the Gov't) don't care ......... because we the public will be inheriting that bill, notice the tax hike coming from National Insurance for a start.

The Private sector and pharma companies have made hikes not just in Private medicare nations like America but now all over Europe and globally, there are businesses out there now who are set up specifically to profit from Covid, Gov't contracts everything.

Who owns shares in all these companies?

So my issue is with conflict of interest, these people are not out to give us a quick solution, the money is in the medicine not the cure.

Who started it, what, where and why none of us are privy to that information.

[DiamondGooner]

Same old DG, presents something as gospel then tries to weasel out of it and ignore sources pointing to the opposite.

There are sources pointing to both and I used one phrase out of turn, one!

The entire rest of the post was accurate, sources were provided.

As opposed to yourself who know's absolutely nothing yet frames it that you know what's true and what's not, that is absolutely laughable.

You know more than that professor in that source or the US politicians blaming China? do me a favor what are your credientials?