Italy on total lockdown because of Corona virus.
Flights still arriving in the UK from northern Italy.
by Phil71 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:00 pm
by Rockape » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:07 am
by Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:31 pm
Phil71 wrote:Italy on total lockdown because of Corona virus.
Flights still arriving in the UK from northern Italy.
by LMAO » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:32 pm
Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Phil71 wrote:Italy on total lockdown because of Corona virus.
Flights still arriving in the UK from northern Italy.
A couple questions if anyone has heard them addressed anyplace.
In China and all of SE Asia for that matter the locals have been wearing face masks for years due to air pollution. I wonder if the death rate in China is higher than it would be globally given there is perhaps a higher level of chronic lung disease there to start with?
Secondly has the UN, WHO or CDC been able to figure out how North Koreans are faring ? I would have to think that the virus is raging there, but no official reports.
by Phil71 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:54 pm
by Pat Rice in Short Shorts » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:40 pm
LMAO wrote:Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:Phil71 wrote:Italy on total lockdown because of Corona virus.
Flights still arriving in the UK from northern Italy.
A couple questions if anyone has heard them addressed anyplace.
In China and all of SE Asia for that matter the locals have been wearing face masks for years due to air pollution. I wonder if the death rate in China is higher than it would be globally given there is perhaps a higher level of chronic lung disease there to start with?
Secondly has the UN, WHO or CDC been able to figure out how North Koreans are faring ? I would have to think that the virus is raging there, but no official reports.
First question, probably. Pollution levels in China have been super high for longer than I've been alive and China has a huge smoking culture. But Italy has a high death rate too, although they have an old population. And we have a high death rate here in the US, but I'd put that down to a lack of widespread testing; most people who have it are probably asymptomatic, testing here is expensive, and we don't really have enough testing kits for all but the most ill.
Second question, I'd be surprised if North Korea had a lot of cases tbh. Liaoning and Jilin (the two Chinese provinces that border North Korea) aren't a hotbed for COVID-19, and North Korea isn't called a hermit kingdom for nothing. And there's a three mile wide bomb-infested land border with South Korea. Also, migration within North Korea is already heavily restricted, so if one of their northern cities or towns had cases, then Kim could immediately institute a quarantine and little would change for the average North Korean. Ironically, North Korea is probably one of the safest places in the world to be right now in regards to catching beer AIDS.
by Zenith » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:49 am
by DiamondGooner » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:02 am
by LMAO » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:06 am
Seasonality of SARS-CoV-2: Will COVID-19 go away on its own in warmer weather?
(tl;dr) Probably not.
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So in summary:
For the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, we have reason to expect that like other betacoronaviruses, it may transmit somewhat more efficiently in winter than summer, though we don’t know the mechanism(s) responsible. The size of the change is expected to be modest, and not enough to stop transmission on its own. Based on the analogy of pandemic flu, we expect that SARS-CoV-2, as a virus new to humans, will face less immunity and thus transmit more readily even outside of the winter season. Changing seasons and school vacation may help, but are unlikely to stop transmission. Urgent for effective policy is to determine if children are important transmitters, in which case school closures may help slow transmission, or not, in which case resources would be wasted in such closures. Previously it was thought children were not easily infected with SARS-CoV-2. Recent evidence from Shenzhen suggests that children may be infected and shed detectable virus at about the same rate as adults — so now the only question is whether they transmit as readily. It seems likely the answer is yes, but no data as of this writing to my knowledge.
by dc16 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:13 am
by Phil71 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:22 am
dc16 wrote:Another interview with a chap on channel 4 news (forgot who he was) was saying the same. It could be here for a while and at the very least it will rear it’s head again next winter. I’ll try and find it
Some of the stories coming from Italy and previously China were pretty grim. Particularly those involving lack of ICU beds and more importantly lack of ventilators for the most serious cases. Both described it as being close to a war.
by Rockape » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:59 am
Phil71 wrote:dc16 wrote:Another interview with a chap on channel 4 news (forgot who he was) was saying the same. It could be here for a while and at the very least it will rear it’s head again next winter. I’ll try and find it
Some of the stories coming from Italy and previously China were pretty grim. Particularly those involving lack of ICU beds and more importantly lack of ventilators for the most serious cases. Both described it as being close to a war.
Germany has the highest number of ICU beds with ventilators per capita in Europe.
They also have the lowest death rate for those who become infected.
by LMAO » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:40 pm
Nuggets wrote:Man made ? can't count that out.
by UFGN » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:43 pm