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Re: In the news today....

Postby Nuggets » Thu May 13, 2021 9:08 am

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Phil71 wrote:Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years. They were persecuted by the Greek and Roman empires throughout which being a *** was punishable by death. They were persecuted in every country they fled to. In Muslim countries they were killed in their thousands for not converting, across the Christian world they were persecuted for over a thousand years for being responsible for the death of Christ. In modern history they were persecuted across Russia and Eastern Europe through state sponsored pogroms. Throughout these times they were refugees. Seeking refuge from persecution. The culmination of course was the events of the 1930s and 40s, where they again became a people seeking refuge. The trouble was nobody wanted them. They were left to the mercy of the Nazis and murdered in their millions. Because they had nowhere to go.

That alone is enough to justify the existence of the state of Israel. If it happens again, Jews, no matter how many, will always have somewhere to go.

And they didn't invade Palestine. They have always been there. They won a civil war.

...and what was the Civil war about then? this persecution they suffered doesn't give them the right to persecute others, they are just bullies. They might have already been there but that doesn't give them the god-given right to oust people who are not jews out from living in said areas. The past is the past and people need to move on from that and embrace the future, learn the lessons that need to be taught, and move on.


I agree that people need to move on.

What I disagree with is the idea that this is all the fault of the Israelis. It most certainly isn't.


we will never know the real truth to that, will we?
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Ach » Thu May 13, 2021 9:20 am

Just read that Biden has given his support to Israel

Lol wtf

He'd probably side with the nazis in world war 2
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Nuggets » Thu May 13, 2021 9:28 am

Ach wrote:Just read that Biden has given his support to Israel

Lol wtf

He'd probably side with the nazis in world war 2


Well, there a surprise. :rolleyes:
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Re: In the news today....

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu May 13, 2021 6:34 pm

Phil71 wrote:Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years. They were persecuted by the Greek and Roman empires throughout which being a *** was punishable by death. They were persecuted in every country they fled to. In Muslim countries they were killed in their thousands for not converting, across the Christian world they were persecuted for over a thousand years for being responsible for the death of Christ. In modern history they were persecuted across Russia and Eastern Europe through state sponsored pogroms. Throughout these times they were refugees. Seeking refuge from persecution. The culmination of course was the events of the 1930s and 40s, where they again became a people seeking refuge. The trouble was nobody wanted them. They were left to the mercy of the Nazis and murdered in their millions. Because they had nowhere to go.

That alone is enough to justify the existence of the state of Israel. If it happens again, Jews, no matter how many, will always have somewhere to go.

And they didn't invade Palestine. They have always been there. They won a civil war.


You wouldn't be saying that if they rocked up and made a country out of Birmingham though would you?
Then started spreading their borders along the South East coast.

The fact is the Jews who were already in Palastine didn't have any issues, it was the foreigner's who were drafted in from Europe.
The Jws who settled into Palastine were not even Middle Eastern, they were the more European ones from Poland etc, Ashkenazi, they've not been in the Middle East for over 1,000 years, some people question if they're even Middle eastern at all because a lot of the European Jews are actually Khazar's or at least that's the theory.

Any way it is what it is, but are you saying Palastinians should just let themselves get invaded?
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Angelito » Sat May 15, 2021 5:45 pm

Accto BBC, Israeli airstrike destroys a building housing AP and Al Jazeera.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Marsbar100 » Sat May 15, 2021 7:33 pm

Killing children is plain wrong
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Re: In the news today....

Postby VCC » Sat May 15, 2021 7:54 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:Killing children is plain wrong

Any country that has taken up arms against another is guilty of it,
The fact that countries target civilians is another issue, however there rarely admit they target civilians.
This conflict is exactly what every large nation needs in the world crisis happening today, it will take the heat of Corona virus and its economic repercussions and camouflage the spending on military and defense for the large nations
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Phil71 » Sat May 15, 2021 9:46 pm

Nothing about Hammas indiscriminately firing rockets into civilian areas in Israeli cities?

No?

Ok.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby VCC » Sat May 15, 2021 10:14 pm

Phil71 wrote:Nothing about Hammas indiscriminately firing rockets into civilian areas in Israeli cities?

No?

Ok.

Same as germans bombing cities in the war, and the Americans dropping bombs anywhere in the same war.
Like I said they all do it done it and have the badge in every conflict.
Targeting civilians is never good but to say it isn't part of the game is naive.
Nz has even been guilty of it in Afghanistan.
It's probably the openness of it that upsets.
You could just drop an atom bomb it's not like that hasn't been done twice before on civilians
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Ach » Sun May 16, 2021 12:43 am

Marsbar100 wrote:Killing children is plain wrong

Muslim children so don't matter apparently

If it was the other way and Israeli kids of terrorists were murdered, we'd never hear the end of it
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Re: In the news today....

Postby jayramfootball » Sun May 16, 2021 12:46 am

Hundreds of rockets fired into Israel by the Palestinian terrorist state.
The reaction from Israel is not unexpected.
Sad, but not unexpected.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby VCC » Sun May 16, 2021 3:15 am

Ach wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:Killing children is plain wrong

Muslim children so don't matter apparently

If it was the other way and Israeli kids of terrorists were murdered, we'd never hear the end of it

No body likes children to be hurt ever, or a needless conflict.
But there is money to be made here this is what pays alot of the large nations Bill's .
There will be arms deals to be done to recuperate these rockets.
That's the way of the world.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Phil71 » Sun May 16, 2021 7:16 am

jayramfootball wrote:Hundreds of rockets fired into Israel by the Palestinian terrorist state.
The reaction from Israel is not unexpected.
Sad, but not unexpected.


And the expected hypocrisy from some corners.

By some accounts you'd think there was no aggression from the Palestinians.

And certain celebrities from the sports world wouldn't give two fucks if the people in the place being bombed by Israel were not muslims, and neither would the usual suspect on here. No muslims, no problem for them.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Rockape » Sun May 16, 2021 7:21 am

https://twitter.com/cswift2/status/1393 ... 88073?s=21

Jeremy Bowen sums it all up perfectly.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Phil71 » Sun May 16, 2021 8:45 am

Rockape wrote:https://twitter.com/cswift2/status/1393567762195288073?s=21

Jeremy Bowen sums it all up perfectly.


Yes good summing up.
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