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Re: In the news today....

Postby Pudpop » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:30 am

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Another immigrant it appears.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45193781
British citizen though


But ! are they lol
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Phil71 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:15 pm

Another Muslim grooming gang.

This is bordering on an epidemic. People should be going into schools and warning young girls about these perverts.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... d-15031935
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Re: In the news today....

Postby UFGN » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:55 pm

Phil71 wrote:Another Muslim grooming gang.

This is bordering on an epidemic. People should be going into schools and warning young girls about these perverts.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... d-15031935


Are these the same grooming gangs that Tommy Robinson and his idiot followers claim go unreported, even though it's often in the news and the BBC made a documentary about it?
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Phil71 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:26 am

UFGN wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Another Muslim grooming gang.

This is bordering on an epidemic. People should be going into schools and warning young girls about these perverts.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... d-15031935


Are these the same grooming gangs that Tommy Robinson and his idiot followers claim go unreported, even though it's often in the news and the BBC made a documentary about it?


They started reporting on it long after him. Much longer after him.

Think of him what you may, but don't you think it's odd that some random bloke from Luton could have so much to tell about these things, years before the Police or the authorities would comment on it, or the mainstream media even mentioned it?

Why do you think that might have been?
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Nuggets » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:55 am

Phil71 wrote:Another Muslim grooming gang.

This is bordering on an epidemic. People should be going into schools and warning young girls about these perverts.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... d-15031935

Round em up give them a good kicking and drop em off on a desert island. :shout:
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Re: In the news today....

Postby UFGN » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:13 am

Phil71 wrote:
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Phil71 wrote:Another Muslim grooming gang.

This is bordering on an epidemic. People should be going into schools and warning young girls about these perverts.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... d-15031935


Are these the same grooming gangs that Tommy Robinson and his idiot followers claim go unreported, even though it's often in the news and the BBC made a documentary about it?


They started reporting on it long after him. Much longer after him.

Think of him what you may, but don't you think it's odd that some random bloke from Luton could have so much to tell about these things, years before the Police or the authorities would comment on it, or the mainstream media even mentioned it?

Why do you think that might have been?


Because criminal trials involving multiple witnesseses and multiple accused take years to arrange?

Because there wasn't enough evidence at the time for the police to comment or because they simply didn't want to for legitimate operational reasons?

His motive is racism. I have no doubt that there may have been mistakes and incompetence from the police but to call it a cover up because the perpetrators were / are Asian is a stretch

Even if it were the case, he has no business getting involved with filming outside criminal trials where jury members and victims of sex crimes are present. (Although it is true that his own trial for for contempt was a farce. )

He can't on the one hand claim a lack of action and then go "covering" events at trial. It's bullshit. His motives are self promotion and racism.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Phil71 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:40 am

UFGN wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
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Phil71 wrote:Another Muslim grooming gang.

This is bordering on an epidemic. People should be going into schools and warning young girls about these perverts.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... d-15031935


Are these the same grooming gangs that Tommy Robinson and his idiot followers claim go unreported, even though it's often in the news and the BBC made a documentary about it?


They started reporting on it long after him. Much longer after him.

Think of him what you may, but don't you think it's odd that some random bloke from Luton could have so much to tell about these things, years before the Police or the authorities would comment on it, or the mainstream media even mentioned it?

Why do you think that might have been?



Because criminal trials involving multiple witnesseses and multiple accused take years to arrange?

Because there wasn't enough evidence at the time for the police to comment or because they simply didn't want to for legitimate operational reasons?

His motive is racism. I have no doubt that there may have been mistakes and incompetence from the police but to call it a cover up because the perpetrators were / are Asian is a stretch

Even if it were the case, he has no business getting involved with filming outside criminal trials where jury members and victims of sex crimes are present. (Although it is true that his own trial for for contempt was a farce. )

He can't on the one hand claim a lack of action and then go "covering" events at trial. It's bullshit. His motives are self promotion and racism.


Various people - including Robinson, sexual health workers, teachers and so on had been repeatedly reporting abuse of this kind since 2004. Social Services and the Police did everything they could to dismiss it. It happened so many times for it to be a coincidence.

Since the first prosecutions a few years back, the authorities have been more inclined to take action. I guess it's easier since someone else took the first plunge.

Before that, I'm quite sure many of them who were involved wanted to get away from it as soon as possible. It's not conducive to a successful career in the Police, the CPS, or Social Services to get involved in such scandalous matters involving large groups of men from ethnic minorities. If it failed they'd have to face the consequences, and get accused of racism.

They probably thought, "Why should I risk my career for these little slags...?"
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Re: In the news today....

Postby UFGN » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:02 pm

There have been loads of examples of child abuse scandals not coming to light until years later. Saville, the Church, the TV industry, and lately with football. Some of those deffinately were covered up and came to light much later than the 10 year timescale with these grooming gangs.

Most of those perpetrators were white. Where is Robinson at those trials?

The scum who abused those girls deserve what they get and more. But Robinson's game isn't protecting children. His game is highlighting crime by Asians to build support for his racist views.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:44 pm

UFGN wrote:There have been loads of examples of child abuse scandals not coming to light until years later. Saville, the Church, the TV industry, and lately with football. Some of those deffinately were covered up and came to light much later than the 10 year timescale with these grooming gangs.

Most of those perpetrators were white. Where is Robinson at those trials?

The scum who abused those girls deserve what they get and more. But Robinson's game isn't protecting children. His game is highlighting crime by Asians to build support for his racist views.


Also I've noticed that the last decade has been all about Islam with these people ........ and there's a not so subtle reason for it.

In the 70's 80's and early 90's the NF, Skin heads, BNP would admittedly say they hate P*ki's, but in today's era where your job could be in jeopardy and you can be ousted via social media racists have had to switch tact so they can openly attack the same people ............. today they use Islam, they attack it as a way to attack Pakistani's, the same Pakistani's they hated particularly up north since the 60's / 70's.

If you remember, it was never about Islam prior to the 2,000's, Islam was never even mentioned.

Further proof of this is they will protest and confront people in Pakistani dense areas but you don't see them protesting the Turks or Kurds in Stoke Newington or Green Lanes Hackney.

They don't protest the Arabs and Persians in Edgeware Road, or the Albanians.

Firstly its because they know they'll be "in for it" if they did, and second of all even though they are also muslims, they are not and never have been the target.

The target is Pakistani's, bashing Islam (always only in Pakistani dense areas) is just a convenient way to attack them openly without being called a racist, they think its clever but I see right through it.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Phil71 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:51 pm

UFGN wrote:There have been loads of examples of child abuse scandals not coming to light until years later. Saville, the Church, the TV industry, and lately with football. Some of those deffinately were covered up and came to light much later than the 10 year timescale with these grooming gangs.

Most of those perpetrators were white. Where is Robinson at those trials?

The scum who abused those girls deserve what they get and more. But Robinson's game isn't protecting children. His game is highlighting crime by Asians to build support for his racist views.


In these cases, no matter what his motives might be, he has most certainly been right to do that.

According to data submitted by 31 Police forces across the UK in 2012, there were 57 groups of men that were known to or suspected of sexually abusing underage girls.

Asian people who descend from the Indian subcontinent make up 5% of the UK population. White people make up 82%.

Bearing this in mind, of the 57 groups of men mentioned above, you might reasonably expect that more or less 5% of them would be made up of Asian men.

In fact 50% of the grooming gangs are Asian. Ten times greater than the population percentage. White men make up 21%. Around one quarter of the population percentage.

Oh.... and 97% of the victims were white girls.
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Re: In the news today....

Postby UFGN » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:57 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
UFGN wrote:There have been loads of examples of child abuse scandals not coming to light until years later. Saville, the Church, the TV industry, and lately with football. Some of those deffinately were covered up and came to light much later than the 10 year timescale with these grooming gangs.

Most of those perpetrators were white. Where is Robinson at those trials?

The scum who abused those girls deserve what they get and more. But Robinson's game isn't protecting children. His game is highlighting crime by Asians to build support for his racist views.


Also I've noticed that the last decade has been all about Islam with these people ........ and there's a not so subtle reason for it.

In the 70's 80's and early 90's the NF, Skin heads, BNP would admittedly say they hate P*ki's, but in today's era where your job could be in jeopardy and you can be ousted via social media racists have had to switch tact so they can openly attack the same people ............. today they use Islam, they attack it as a way to attack Pakistani's, the same Pakistani's they hated particularly up north since the 60's / 70's.

If you remember, it was never about Islam prior to the 2,000's, Islam was never even mentioned.

Further proof of this is they will protest and confront people in Pakistani dense areas but you don't see them protesting the Turks or Kurds in Stoke Newington or Green Lanes Hackney.

They don't protest the Arabs and Persians in Edgeware Road, or the Albanians.

Firstly its because they know they'll be "in for it" if they did, and second of all even though they are also muslims, they are not and never have been the target.

The target is Pakistani's, bashing Islam (always only in Pakistani dense areas) is just a convenient way to attack them openly without being called a racist, they think its clever but I see right through it.


Yep

Can't go shouting "pakis out" nowadays

So instead put on a suit and start up a slick YouTube channel
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:09 pm

Tommy is risking his life, he is genuine in his beliefs whether you like him or not, it doesn't just stem from someone being different to him
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Re: In the news today....

Postby UFGN » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:11 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:Tommy is risking his life, he is genuine in his beliefs whether you like him or not, it doesn't just stem from someone being different to him


Then how do you reconcile that with the posts above?
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Re: In the news today....

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:17 pm

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Marsbar100 wrote:Tommy is risking his life, he is genuine in his beliefs whether you like him or not, it doesn't just stem from someone being different to him


Then how do you reconcile that with the posts above?


People in life tend to get behind something that directly affects them, i bet most London marathon runners run for a charity that has personally affected them in some way shape or form, Tommy is from Luton with a massive Muslim population i think his cousin was groomed by mulsims and he has grown up with this first hand so it's real to him
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