In the news today...

[UFGN]

I was astonished a few years back when I discovered that a friend of a friend, who likes a good drink, was receiving disability living allowance as he had been categorised as an alcoholic.

Jeez....really? I we wonder why the country ran out of money. Incredible!

I'm calling bullshit on that actually

[Phil71]

I was astonished a few years back when I discovered that a friend of a friend, who likes a good drink, was receiving disability living allowance as he had been categorised as an alcoholic.

Jeez....really? I we wonder why the country ran out of money. Incredible!

I'm calling bullshit on that actually

You can call what you like sunshine.

He told me they assessed him, and decided his alcoholism and the effect it was apparently having on him made him unfit for work.

[Ach]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/not-fair-world-cycling-bronze-medalist-cries-foul-after-transgender-woman-wins-gold

I'm all for equal rights, but this is ridiculous. It's absolutely unfair for a trans woman to compete against women.

It's like when Serena played the 200-something ranked male tennis player and got destroyed or the USWNT played our U-15? team and got assblasted.

Wonder if I'll be allowed to be in the women's football team?

I have as much right as this dude

Imagine an MMA fighter or boxer becoming trans and saying they now want to fight women.

It's ridiculous but that's the way of the world these days.

[Pudpop]

I was astonished a few years back when I discovered that a friend of a friend, who likes a good drink, was receiving disability living allowance as he had been categorised as an alcoholic.

Jeez....really? I we wonder why the country ran out of money. Incredible!

I'm calling bullshit on that actually

You can call what you like sunshine.

He told me they assessed him, and decided his alcoholism and the effect it was apparently having on him made him unfit for work.

I think UFGN is talking more broadly about benefits leading to economic problems

[Phil71]

I was astonished a few years back when I discovered that a friend of a friend, who likes a good drink, was receiving disability living allowance as he had been categorised as an alcoholic.

Jeez....really? I we wonder why the country ran out of money. Incredible!

I'm calling bullshit on that actually

You can call what you like sunshine.

He told me they assessed him, and decided his alcoholism and the effect it was apparently having on him made him unfit for work.

I think UFGN is talking more broadly about benefits leading to economic problems

Ah!

If so then I detract and apologise.

[UFGN]

I was astonished a few years back when I discovered that a friend of a friend, who likes a good drink, was receiving disability living allowance as he had been categorised as an alcoholic.

Jeez....really? I we wonder why the country ran out of money. Incredible!

I'm calling bullshit on that actually

You can call what you like sunshine.

He told me they assessed him, and decided his alcoholism and the effect it was apparently having on him made him unfit for work.

I think UFGN is talking more broadly about benefits leading to economic problems

Ah!

If so then I detract and apologise.

Please don't

I meant what you think I meant

You don't get DLA or equivalent for Alcoholism

The only exception is if being an alcoholic has subsequently caused a serious debilitating desease

[Phil71]

I was astonished a few years back when I discovered that a friend of a friend, who likes a good drink, was receiving disability living allowance as he had been categorised as an alcoholic.

Jeez....really? I we wonder why the country ran out of money. Incredible!

I'm calling bullshit on that actually

You can call what you like sunshine.

He told me they assessed him, and decided his alcoholism and the effect it was apparently having on him made him unfit for work.

I think UFGN is talking more broadly about benefits leading to economic problems

Ah!

If so then I detract and apologise.

Please don't

I meant what you think I meant

You don't get DLA or equivalent for Alcoholism

The only exception is if being an alcoholic has subsequently caused a serious debilitating desease

Well maybe he did for all I know.

I didn’t ask him for the details.

[Jedi]

............... you've thought about this a lot haven't you lol.

Look fact is this, you can all act all "progressive" and all that BS but the fact is this, if you fk a tranny, its a guy ........... simple as that.

Don't let technology fool you, if we didn't have the boob implants and the hormone replacements etc what would we have then? no trannies right? i mean yeah you'll have feminine homosexuals wearing a wig ..........like they did old school sure, but not proper trannies right?

Its a bloke, fk all this "modern" agenda BS, too many guys these days are getting sucked into this millennial thinking, the reason you don't fancy tranny's is because it would be gay to do so.
Bodies telling you no, political correctness is telling you yes.

Go fk themselves, I'm a straight male, and I'm not fkin apologising for it, sick of this guilt trip nonsense.

Yes i have thought about this a lot. I've recently debated someone on this exact same topic and I've done quite a bit of research so I'm pretty confident I'm right.

A tranny is definitely of male sex, but it's not a "guy" depending on which working definition of gender you choose. Sex already covers reproductive function and the XY sex determination chromosomes so If you define gender as google does: "the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)" you have to agree that it's unfair to label trannies as men. On the other hand, if you define gender as a complete synonym for sex that's just pointless. Most of the issues people have with grasping concepts like these is that they're sadly usually presented by screeching Tumblr morons.

Also asking what would happen if we didn't have plastic surgery and hormone blocking therapy is ridiculous to me because we do have these things, and the science is only getting better, and it's going to reach a point where you won't be able to tell a difference between any tranny and any female, so you should question yourself how you're going to justify branding them as "guys" when you literally won't be able to tell the difference in the near future.

I also disagree with the notion that I'm "sucked into modern millennial thinking". I actually live in a VERY conservative country and i used to be extremely homophobic (i genuinely hated gay people) as this was the society i was brought up in. Most of the opinions i have acquired since then have been through rigorous research, not societal pressures to conform to an agenda.

the reason you don't fancy tranny's is because it would be gay to do so.

Actually, according to a study from 2015 this is completely wrong
In this study there were three groups of participants. The first group consisted of men who identify as homosexual, the second of men who identify as heterosexual, and the third of Gynandromorphophilic men (men who are attracted to trannies). They were shown 3 minute erotic clips and asked to self measure their own sexual arousal. All the while, they had a strain gauge around their penises which measured changes in their physical arousal.

The data collected this way was analyzed and when we have two diagrams that sum up the findings.
It seems pretty clear that Gynandromorphophilic men have an attraction very different their homosexual counterparts. While they've shown more or less equal high level of arousal to women and trannies, their arousal level drops off dramatically when shown gay porn.

On the other hand, surprisingly or not so surprisingly, heterosexual men show a higher level of arousal to tranny porn than homosexual men.


Citations: https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s10508-016-0872-6 and https://sci-hub.tw/10.1017/S0033291715002317


Conclusion: TRAPS AREN'T GAY!

[DiamondGooner]

Conclusion: TRAPS AREN'T GAY!

Whatever makes you sleep better at night, little pet.

If they were such genuine women you wouldn't be calling them "Traps" would you?

So as to your question, why do I feel that they are a guy? because they were born with balls and a bigger d*ck than me that's why.

If it shagged a woman, she'd fall pregnant that's why, cosmetic alterations don't change that fact that's why.

Also you can take that "gender and the meaning of ....." discussion and shove it, sex, gender whatever you define it means nothing, a man has balls and penis, a women does not ......... and I mean at birth not after the magic of science.

If a Tiger wraps himself in a feathered coat and tries to squak ............ its still a Tiger.

No amount of fancy millennial clap trap "definition" discussion is going to change base nature.

Don't blame me, blame evolution and God.

[Pudpop]

To be honest, I don't get the whole 'I wouldn't be attracted to them if I knew they were trans' thing. If they look like a woman, they're attractive and they have a pussy, my body's going to react.

This reminds me of when I first had a white person tell me that they 'just aren't attracted to people of colour'. If I'm honest (and not trying to call anyone out, just giving my opinion) I think there's more prejudice than there is lack of attraction.

[UFGN]

FFS is DG still on about f***ing Trans women

I can tell hes given this a lot of thought

Let's have a Go Fund Me campaign and send him to Bangkok to get it out of his system

[DiamondGooner]

FFS is DG still on about f***ing Trans women

I can tell hes given this a lot of thought

Let's have a Go Fund Me campaign and send him to Bangkok to get it out of his system

You wish.

Anyway are you blind? I was responding to Jedi who spent all that time on gathering fancy graphs etc it would of been plain rude not to answer.

This is a discussion part of the forum, if you don't want to discuss then go sit in the corner and face the wall.

[DiamondGooner]

To be honest, I don't get the whole 'I wouldn't be attracted to them if I knew they were trans' thing. If they look like a woman, they're attractive and they have a pussy, my body's going to react.

This reminds me of when I first had a white person tell me that they 'just aren't attracted to people of colour'. If I'm honest (and not trying to call anyone out, just giving my opinion) I think there's more prejudice than there is lack of attraction.

As Exhibit A (i.e myself) I have to disagree with your conclusion.

I used to have this little joke with my pals, I used to say "I'm not racist but my d*ck is".

There are definitely some races of women that I find more attractive than others in general, its pretty much what I am, brown & white.

European women, Spanish women, South American women, Mid East women, Turkish women etc I find more attractive than others.

However a funny thing is I don't fancy just all white women either, Slavic women although some are beautiful kind of put me off, not sure why but I'm not really into slavic chics.

So yeah I have to refute the "prejudice" bit, I'm mixed race, certainly not prejudice but I have no control over which lakes my member likes to swim in, if you get my drift.

[Jedi]

To be honest, I don't get the whole 'I wouldn't be attracted to them if I knew they were trans' thing. If they look like a woman, they're attractive and they have a pussy, my body's going to react.

This reminds me of when I first had a white person tell me that they 'just aren't attracted to people of colour'. If I'm honest (and not trying to call anyone out, just giving my opinion) I think there's more prejudice than there is lack of attraction.

Agree with this 100%. You could maybe even justify not being attracted to people of colour if you really don't find darker shades of skin attractive, but i doubt there are many people like that. Most of it is some form of prejudice. Not that you can really control your prejudice. It's just how we humans are but we should try our best to do some introspection into why we feel a certain way and change it.


As for DG, since you completely glossed over the evidence i presented to bolster my claims, I'm going to have to go to the nuclear option which i don't do lightly but you've given me no other choice.

There is a gun to your head and you have to f**k one. Which one is it more gay to f**k?

Would you rather have sex with this birth assigned female:


Or this birth assigned man:

[DiamondGooner]

Thank God I'm at work and that 2nd image is broken.

Fix it and I'll answer later.

But as for the first one ............. I'd actually rather get shot, and I'm not joking, that's ugly even for a man, and Ginger to boot!!! nuclear option is right!!

Fk you.