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Re: Vela

Postby Leody » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:43 am

Hammered Pizza wrote:The Mexican Walcott. Plagued by a lack of ability.


Fixed that for you
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Re: Vela

Postby whee » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:49 am

Leody wrote:The Mexican Walcott. Plagued by a lack of ability.

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You don't really believe that though.

His ability to make a goal keeper look helpless is something that can't be taught.

I think it's his physical limitations which have hindered his progress.
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Re: Vela

Postby Leody » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:55 am

Doesn't matter if you can beat the keeper if you can't beat a defender, don't know when to make a run and can't pass... Never in the right position, never get the chance to beat the keeper.

And who cares if he's great at 1v1's most goals come from other means.
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Re: Vela

Postby VCC » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:59 am

Dont need to be great at 1v1 any more just need to ferking dive as soon as a keeper gets near you.
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Re: Vela

Postby Leody » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:43 am

:lol:

Sad but true...
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Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:46 am

I can remember when we first signed him and everyone thought he was going to come in and be amazing.
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Re: Vela

Postby Git » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:15 am

Maybe attitude as well? You don't get banned from your national team for nothing.
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Re: Vela

Postby Leody » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:40 am

Plymouth Gooner wrote:I can remember when we first signed him and everyone thought he was going to come in and be amazing.


Sounds like a few other youngsters that are currently with us...
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Re: Vela

Postby ThereIsBearCüm » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:17 pm

Leody wrote:
Plymouth Gooner wrote:I can remember when we first signed him and everyone thought he was going to come in and be amazing.


Sounds like a few other youngsters that are currently with us...


except we've actually seen a lot of those youngsters play
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Re: Vela

Postby Popey » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:14 pm

whee wrote:
Leody wrote:The Mexican Walcott. Plagued by a lack of ability.



You don't really believe that though.

His ability to make a goal keeper look helpless is something that can't be taught.

I think it's his physical limitations which have hindered his progress
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so what about hernandez?

I stil think vela isn't used in the right way by wenger. he never really had a chance. and when he played as striker he scored many times.
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Re: Vela

Postby ivan itchybum » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:58 pm

Leody wrote:
Plymouth Gooner wrote:I can remember when we first signed him and everyone thought he was going to come in and be amazing.


Sounds like a few other youngsters that are currently with us...

every club has a few "wonderkids" that don't make it
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Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:36 pm

We have three a season!
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Re: Vela

Postby GunnGunn » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:54 pm

I always thought Vela would be quality, but he hasn't kicked on really, personally, i think its down to bad management, he and Hernandez are very similar players, at one point Vela was streets ahead, and look now...

Its one reason why i think that AW needs to go.
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Re: Vela

Postby FatSadGooner » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:05 am

Jay22 wrote:How is he doing at Sociedad? I read somewhere that he is looking to make the deal permanent at the end of the season. Would be best for all the parties involved, tbf. Doesn't look like he'll get a chance at Arsenal for whatever reasons.


He's been quoted as saying he wants to make the move permanent because he's enjoying himself in Spain, doesn't enjoy life at Arsenal, and doesn't want to come back.

I'd like to think he's still young enough to become a good player - it just wont be for us.

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Re: Vela

Postby friedslice » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:20 am

GunnGunn wrote:I always thought Vela would be quality, but he hasn't kicked on really, personally, i think its down to bad management, he and Hernandez are very similar players, at one point Vela was streets ahead, and look now...

Its one reason why i think that AW needs to go.


That's pure speculation. It's like saying Wenger messed up Merida because he was extremely similar to Fabregas at the same age. You don't know Vela's mentality or his willingness to muck in and work hard on improving. It's common for wonderkids to not step up to the next level when required and it's daft to suggest a manager 'needs to go' because a player didn't reach potential we once thought he had. You can blame Wenger, or just accept you (and the rest of us who thought he was special) were wrong. He can be added to the list of could have beens along with Merida, Bentley, Pennant etc.
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