Atheist or Theist?

[Plymouth Gooner]

There was a time that the world being flat was accepted as fact. The clever people said so, they had proof that us minnows wouldn't understand - just like the big bang theory!!!

[ThereIsBearCum]

There was a time that the world being flat was accepted as fact. The clever people said so, they had proof that us minnows wouldn't understand - just like the big bang theory!!!

Not really, they just thought "looks flat to me" and that was it. No one spent their entire careers research the "flat earth theory"

[Plymouth Gooner]

Another issue i have with science is that most of it is sponsored and whether that is by government or business there is always going to be an agenda - with pressure to get certain results. If you set out to prove/disprove one theory it is easy to ignore alternative theories.

[ThereIsBearCum]

that's where peer review comes in
you have to get peers independent of the study to say it's of any merit before anyone really takes it seriously

[elkanofan]

The big bang was an extremely dense ball of matter. There is no evidence that anything like that dense exists any more.

What formed the extremely dense ball of matter?

[ThereIsBearCum]

The big bang was an extremely dense ball of matter. There is no evidence that anything like that dense exists any more.

What formed the extremely dense ball of matter?

matter

[elkanofan]

that's where peer review comes in
you have to get peers independent of the study to say it's of any merit before anyone really takes it seriously

http://www.rin.ac.uk/our-work/using-and ... ase-studie

Again:

A report of research patterns in life sciences revealing that researcher practices diverge from policies promoted by funders and information service providers

Whos funding what?

Big buisness tycoon and investors rely heavily on Marxist theory and the material western world for them to make billions of dollars! Who the f**k is going to fund research to disprove the modern sciences we see today which could mean these people losing their businesses?

Western infrastructure is not about helping mankind, it's about profit, this is what the monetary system is designed to do. Put everyone in massive debt! Please watch this video:


Evolution theory and myths like the big bang are popular and show SO much evidence because it's making some very rich people a lot of money! They are telling the masses what the WANT the masses to know, not he true story which to be honest nobody really knows, there's been so man lies!

It's all about money and control!

[elkanofan]

The big bang was an extremely dense ball of matter. There is no evidence that anything like that dense exists any more.

What formed the extremely dense ball of matter?

matter

whee did he matter come from? Who or what intended the matter to be there for it to then cause a big bang?

we can do this all day!

[ChVint22]

Some of you need to read Lawerence Krauss' book "A Universe from Nothing". It explains how the Universe could start from almost nothing. Like I said earlier, people deny evolution or certain scientific theories mostly because they don't understand them.

And just to point out, when Lawerence says "nothing", he doesn't actually mean nothing, he just means from almost nothing, or nothing that can be seen with the human eye. It is hard to understand (for me anyway), so you may have to read it a few times.

[ChVint22]

The big bang was an extremely dense ball of matter. There is no evidence that anything like that dense exists any more.

What formed the extremely dense ball of matter?

matter

whee did he matter come from? Who or what intended the matter to be there for it to then cause a big bang?

we can do this all day!

It could have been already there. Just like some people think a God was already there, you could then ask, well where did God come from and what is his purpose. So somewhere along the line something or someone just had to be.

[ThereIsBearCum]

The big bang was an extremely dense ball of matter. There is no evidence that anything like that dense exists any more.

What formed the extremely dense ball of matter?

matter

whee did he matter come from? Who or what intended the matter to be there for it to then cause a big bang?

we can do this all day!

I still don't see why you think there's a reason for it

[elkanofan]

Some of you need to read Lawerence Krauss' book "A Universe from Nothing". It explains how the Universe could start from almost nothing. Like I said earlier, people deny evolution or certain scientific theories mostly because they don't understand them.

And just to point out, when Lawerence says "nothing", he doesn't actually mean nothing, he just means from almost nothing, or nothing that can be seen with the human eye. It is hard to understand (for me anyway), so you may have to read it a few times.

Probably because it uses a lot of long ambiguous words and much pretty jargon and disinfo.

I'll read it anyway I don't throw out any evidence I try to make sense of it in bigger picture.

Please watch Money as Debt, most important video anyone should watch.

Money rules our lives and it's high time we understood how the monetary system works.

[ChVint22]

Some of you need to read Lawerence Krauss' book "A Universe from Nothing". It explains how the Universe could start from almost nothing. Like I said earlier, people deny evolution or certain scientific theories mostly because they don't understand them.

And just to point out, when Lawerence says "nothing", he doesn't actually mean nothing, he just means from almost nothing, or nothing that can be seen with the human eye. It is hard to understand (for me anyway), so you may have to read it a few times.

Probably because it uses a lot of long ambiguous words and much pretty jargon and disinfo.

I'll read it anyway I don't throw out any evidence I try to make sense of it in bigger picture.

Please watch Money as Debt, most important video anyone should watch.

Money rules our lives and it's high time we understood how the monetary system works.

No, it's because I'm not a college graduate, and the things I've could have learned in college would make me understand these things easier, so instead of just breezing through the book, I had to stop and look up certain things because I didn't understand them.

And yes, I understand money rules the world, even so in religion.

[elkanofan]

The big bang was an extremely dense ball of matter. There is no evidence that anything like that dense exists any more.

What formed the extremely dense ball of matter?

matter

whee did he matter come from? Who or what intended the matter to be there for it to then cause a big bang?

we can do this all day!

I still don't see why you think there's a reason for it

Because I like to make sense of things in the biggest perspective possible. Also I'm a creative person and I'm a designer so i see the design process in things, i see everything no matter how big or small has it's purpose and everything has it's reason for being here. When i used to lean towards atheism and become a rather cynical viewer of religion and lean towards science. My life was pure, pure shit!

What i learned from this is that's exactly what all the science institutions are about, they aren't about helping anyone, it's about giving reason to these banksters madness and criminal activity! Making you feel like shit, your just a smart ape if your not rich or financially secure, it's about making you feel like there is only one point to life which is making loads of money, working, working and working!

People who are rich and have heavy investment into our western society especially want the status qou to remain and protect their assets, so this is why they suppress us with debt mainly among much other disinfo, they tell us what they want us to know.

That video which explains how the money system works, people who study buisness all their lives don't know this, why isn't this taught in schools? Because they don't want us to know!

[elkanofan]

Some of you need to read Lawerence Krauss' book "A Universe from Nothing". It explains how the Universe could start from almost nothing. Like I said earlier, people deny evolution or certain scientific theories mostly because they don't understand them.

And just to point out, when Lawerence says "nothing", he doesn't actually mean nothing, he just means from almost nothing, or nothing that can be seen with the human eye. It is hard to understand (for me anyway), so you may have to read it a few times.

Probably because it uses a lot of long ambiguous words and much pretty jargon and disinfo.

I'll read it anyway I don't throw out any evidence I try to make sense of it in bigger picture.

Please watch Money as Debt, most important video anyone should watch.

Money rules our lives and it's high time we understood how the monetary system works.

No, it's because I'm not a college graduate, and the things I've could have learned in college would make me understand these things easier, so instead of just breezing through the book, I had to stop and look up certain things because I didn't understand them.

And yes, I understand money rules the world, even so in religion.

Ok, I wouldn't worry about not being a graduate, i think many people who have done masters will still struggle to understand certain books. Uni is about responsible learning. Lecturers advise you but don't spoon force fed you like in school, you have to do the running yourself.

I really advise people to watch the doc 'Money as debt' as it explains how the system works clearly so everyone can understand why money is so powerful and why we are in such ridiculous amounts of debt.