Can we really mount a challenge next season?

[Hammered Pizza]

I agree, be positive, but I've heard the 'we were ... points behind in ...' dribble so many times now

[Fabrestuta]

whats wrong with him being positive?

he's given his reasoning. he's just reminding us all that we don't have t be super negative all the time.

Not in the slightest being negative elk. Just stating that with a tweak here or there we could be champions. Nothing wrong with that is there?

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[elkanofan]

True point there fabrestuta.

Football has changed a lot since then in terms of competiveness.

[Bristol_Gunner]

Not unless something drastic happens.

[Plymouth Gooner]

If we don't have any injuries or suspensions next season then we'll win the league!

[starmandb]

whats wrong with him being positive?

he's given his reasoning. he's just reminding us all that we don't have t be super negative all the time.

Not in the slightest being negative elk. Just stating that with a tweak here or there we could be champions. Nothing wrong with that is there?

yes fine tuning needed like it has been for the last 4 years.agree totally

[ivan itchybum]

we finished 19 points behind the manchesters this season, 19 thats ridiculous... we might wina cup but not the prem

[elkanofan]

whats wrong with him being positive?

he's given his reasoning. he's just reminding us all that we don't have t be super negative all the time.

Not in the slightest being negative elk. Just stating that with a tweak here or there we could be champions. Nothing wrong with that is there?

Cool, i ment it in a general questrion since i feel he was being attacked by a few people with his positive outlook a bit unfairly.

[AFC10]

We can yes! We have the spirit and we have the right base to work on but we need serious depth and some more quality players to add to Podolski others we'll be where we was today again next season!

[TartanRaven]

The sheer fact that WBA were able to score on us is proof that our defence is sh*t

You're gunna get told who WBA have scored against in every game for the last 20 years now.

Thanks a lot mate!

no but its not a bad idea.
we conceded 6 goals at home in 70/71 the best home season i have ever known
we conceded 2 to west brom
i guess.wilson rice,mcnab,mclintock and simpson were shit?

Ok, fair point. Using the starman method of argumentation: "OH YEAH?? WELL BACK IN 1897......"

[SammyGunner11]

As we are now - no. If what needs to be done are done during the summer - yes

[UFGN]

We finish nineteen points off the pace and the very same day people are chatting shit about us challenging for the league in three months time.

Grow up ffs.

[FatSadGooner]

We finish nineteen points off the pace and the very same day people are chatting shit about us challenging for the league in three months time.

Are there 20 points we could make up in future?

Results
English Premier League 2011-2012
No Date Opponent Venue Result Pos Pts
1 13.08.2011 Newcastle United away D0-0 7 1
2 20.08.2011 Liverpool home L0-2 15 1
3 28.08.2011 Manchester United away L2-8 17 1
4 10.09.2011 Swansea City home W1-0 11 4
5 17.09.2011 Blackburn Rovers away L3-4 15 4
6 24.09.2011 Bolton Wanderers home W3-0 12 7
7 02.10.2011 Tottenham Hotspur away L1-2 15 7
8 16.10.2011 Sunderland home W2-1 10 10
9 23.10.2011 Stoke City home W3-1 7 13
10 29.10.2011 Chelsea away W5-3 7 16
11 05.11.2011 West Bromwich Albion home W3-0 7 19
12 19.11.2011 Norwich City away W2-1 6 22
[color=#FFFF40]13 26.11.2011 Fulham home D1-1 6 23 [/color]
14 03.12.2011 Wigan Athletic away W4-0 5 26
15 10.12.2011 Everton home W1-0 4 29
16 18.12.2011 Manchester City away L0-1 5 29
17 21.12.2011 Aston Villa away W2-1 5 32
18 27.12.2011 Wolverhampton Wndrs home D1-1 5 33
19 31.12.2011 Queens Park Rangers home W1-0 4 36
20 02.01.2012 Fulham away L1-2 5 36
21 15.01.2012 Swansea City away L2-3 5 36
22 22.01.2012 Manchester United home L1-2 5 36
23 01.02.2012 Bolton Wanderers away D0-0 7 37
24 04.02.2012 Blackburn Rovers home W7-1 5 40
25 11.02.2012 Sunderland away W2-1 4 43
26 26.02.2012 Tottenham Hotspur home W5-2 4 46
27 03.03.2012 Liverpool away W2-1 4 49
28 12.03.2012 Newcastle United home W2-1 4 52
29 21.03.2012 Everton away W1-0 3 55
30 24.03.2012 Aston Villa home W3-0 3 58
31 31.03.2012 Queens Park Rangers away L1-2 3 58
32 08.04.2012 Manchester City home W1-0 3 61
33 11.04.2012 Wolverhampton Wndrs away W3-0 3 64
34 16.04.2012 Wigan Athletic home L1-2 3 64
35 21.04.2012 Chelsea home D0-0 3 65
36 28.04.2012 Stoke City away D1-1 3 66
37 05.05.2012 Norwich City home D3-3 3 67
38 13.05.2012 West Bromwich Albion away W3-2 3 70

I reckon we should have been 10-15 points better off than we finished up

So ..

Can we challenge? Well we can get a darn sight nearer than we did this year.

Will we challenge? No in my opinion, unless we have huuuge changes over the next couple of months

[EvAMY-CRAIGLEEAFC]

Not demanding it. But expecting to be nearer in points terms. Only if we keep RVP though.