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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:35 am

friedslice wrote:
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Bristol_Gunner wrote:I am still unsure if i want him having a much larger stake in the club, but i do feel with the percentage that he has he should be allowed to invest money into the club for transfers.


Giving a red-carpet Welcome to Silent Stan has done zero benefit to our club . i feel we shouldn't be afraid to
offer Usmanov a seat on the board .There is no harm in it
. 'Silent Stan hasn't done anything wrong
at-least' is a negative way of arguing . I feel Getting Usmanov on the board at-least will keep the board
on the toes . Right now it is an arrangement where everybody is nice and cosy with body scratching
one another's back .


It's no surprises you saying this, but still, are you on crack? :dizzy:

There shouldn't even be a need to explain why it's a terrible idea, how badly it could go and the fact that there is ABSOLUTELY NO NEED for a sugar daddy. We're not Citeh or Chelsea, we're a big club with a big fan base, massive stadium and most importantly an EXTREMELY STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION.

As i've said before, we don't need anymore money, we just need Wenger and our board to spend what we have - which is plenty enough to win us titles without the need of someone with a more than dodgy history.


If u already have an opinion about me then keep it to yourself , forum is not a place to get personal :)

Offering a place on the board=Selling/whoring yourself to Usmanov . Thank you for understanding my point :doh: .

If u read my post fully i have said very clearly that right now everybody on the board is acting in harmony
to fill up their already deep pockets . Nobody is seriously bothered about winning something . I mean
Its like a symbiotic relationship where every single person on the board is acting like Wenger's yes man .
Its time somebody is up there in the pack who will at-least question the great footballing decisions
our board and manager have been doing in the past 6 years winning nothing .
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby elkanofan » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:52 am

we are loaded, we have funds, we are in a great financial situation.

But we have nowhere near the amounts of united, chelsea and City.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Forest » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:56 am

We may have funds but as Aston Villa found out it takes alot to make that next step, so yes we may have £100m in the bank but how many world class players would that buy? 4 at the most? It could so easily be spent up and not make that much difference over all.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby friedslice » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:31 am

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:
friedslice wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:
Bristol_Gunner wrote:I am still unsure if i want him having a much larger stake in the club, but i do feel with the percentage that he has he should be allowed to invest money into the club for transfers.


Giving a red-carpet Welcome to Silent Stan has done zero benefit to our club . i feel we shouldn't be afraid to
offer Usmanov a seat on the board .There is no harm in it
. 'Silent Stan hasn't done anything wrong
at-least' is a negative way of arguing . I feel Getting Usmanov on the board at-least will keep the board
on the toes . Right now it is an arrangement where everybody is nice and cosy with body scratching
one another's back .


It's no surprises you saying this, but still, are you on crack? :dizzy:

There shouldn't even be a need to explain why it's a terrible idea, how badly it could go and the fact that there is ABSOLUTELY NO NEED for a sugar daddy. We're not Citeh or Chelsea, we're a big club with a big fan base, massive stadium and most importantly an EXTREMELY STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION.

As i've said before, we don't need anymore money, we just need Wenger and our board to spend what we have - which is plenty enough to win us titles without the need of someone with a more than dodgy history.


Offering a place on the board=Selling/whoring yourself to Usmanov . Thank you for understanding my point :doh: .



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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby friedslice » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:33 am

Forest wrote:We may have funds but as Aston Villa found out it takes alot to make that next step, so yes we may have £100m in the bank but how many world class players would that buy? 4 at the most? It could so easily be spent up and not make that much difference over all.


We've covered how far 4 quality signings could go in another thread, it would make a huge difference and we'd be challenging again.

If United, Liverpool, the scum etc can make these big money signings without a rich backer then we most certainly can.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Forest » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:53 am

Those 3 are backed by billionaires, you did know that right?

Their commercial incomes far out way ours and thats why they can, there owners are united are pulling in the same direction. ours are divided and wont help the other, i dont blame either because i wouldnt.

Our commerical team have done only two new deals in the last two seasons of anything significent, as i said were falling behind.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:58 am

friedslice wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:
friedslice wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:
Bristol_Gunner wrote:I am still unsure if i want him having a much larger stake in the club, but i do feel with the percentage that he has he should be allowed to invest money into the club for transfers.


Giving a red-carpet Welcome to Silent Stan has done zero benefit to our club . i feel we shouldn't be afraid to
offer Usmanov a seat on the board .There is no harm in it
. 'Silent Stan hasn't done anything wrong
at-least' is a negative way of arguing . I feel Getting Usmanov on the board at-least will keep the board
on the toes . Right now it is an arrangement where everybody is nice and cosy with body scratching
one another's back .


It's no surprises you saying this, but still, are you on crack? :dizzy:

There shouldn't even be a need to explain why it's a terrible idea, how badly it could go and the fact that there is ABSOLUTELY NO NEED for a sugar daddy. We're not Citeh or Chelsea, we're a big club with a big fan base, massive stadium and most importantly an EXTREMELY STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION.

As i've said before, we don't need anymore money, we just need Wenger and our board to spend what we have - which is plenty enough to win us titles without the need of someone with a more than dodgy history.


Offering a place on the board=Selling/whoring yourself to Usmanov . Thank you for understanding my point :doh: .



I wouldn't invite a hooker for dinner unless I planned to stick my cock up her arse.


I think you are way too intellectual for mere mortals like me to be responding to your posts
Anyways don't wast your energy for the sake of having the last word.. tc
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Fabrestuta » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:39 pm

Forest wrote:We may have funds but as Aston Villa found out it takes alot to make that next step, so yes we may have £100m in the bank but how many world class players would that buy? 4 at the most? It could so easily be spent up and not make that much difference over all.



We don't need to buy multiple top drawer players at one time. The mancs have the right idea when it comes to spending money. They might spend a lot on one player every season or two, but they also sprinkle in young academy players and talent they have found oversees.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby SAINTNICKLE » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:43 pm

Forest wrote:We may have funds but as Aston Villa found out it takes alot to make that next step, so yes we may have £100m in the bank but how many world class players would that buy? 4 at the most? It could so easily be spent up and not make that much difference over all.


So you think that 4 x 25 million pound players wouldnt make much difference to the side we are putting out at the moment??Are you real and have you seen the drivel that has been served up recently??
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Forest » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:04 pm

SAINTNICKLE wrote:
Forest wrote:We may have funds but as Aston Villa found out it takes alot to make that next step, so yes we may have £100m in the bank but how many world class players would that buy? 4 at the most? It could so easily be spent up and not make that much difference over all.


So you think that 4 x 25 million pound players wouldnt make much difference to the side we are putting out at the moment??Are you real and have you seen the drivel that has been served up recently??


Hello! yes im real, are you? only 2 posts i see.

Yes the 4 players could make a difference or one could flop or another get home sick or another thinks hes more awsome than he actually is and do f all during games. You just dont know in football.

Dont think every £25m player will be an instant hit and a Messi. My point was that they could make a difference but would it be enough of a difference? i refered to Aston Villa because they spent over £60m to climb 1 or 2 league places.

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Forest wrote:We may have funds but as Aston Villa found out it takes alot to make that next step, so yes we may have £100m in the bank but how many world class players would that buy? 4 at the most? It could so easily be spent up and not make that much difference over all.



We don't need to buy multiple top drawer players at one time. The mancs have the right idea when it comes to spending money. They might spend a lot on one player every season or two, but they also sprinkle in young academy players and talent they have found oversees.


I agree with you there Fabs but were in a situation where we need to buy a couple at a time.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Jay22 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:17 pm

Forest wrote:We may have funds but as Aston Villa found out it takes alot to make that next step, so yes we may have £100m in the bank but how many world class players would that buy? 4 at the most? It could so easily be spent up and not make that much difference over all.

If you consider their wages, I don't think we'll be able to get 4 for 100m.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:19 pm

Fabrestuta wrote:
We don't need to buy multiple top drawer players at one time. .


I would take that statement with a pinch of salt in first place but even if i agree with you for a moment ,
When you cannot buy multiple top draw players at one time , why do u sell two of your best players
in one window ? There are separate rules for selling and buying is it ?

We have sold Nasri and Cesc in one window and where are their replacements ? Arteta is a good player
who was needed along with Cesc and not instead of .He is no Cesc replacement . This board needs a kick
up the backside but who will do that when they are busy scratching one another's back .
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Fabrestuta » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:23 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:
Fabrestuta wrote:
We don't need to buy multiple top drawer players at one time. .


I would take that statement with a pinch of salt in first place but even if i agree with you for a moment ,
When you cannot buy multiple top draw players at one time , why do u sell two of your best players
in one window ? There are separate rules for selling and buying is it ?

We have sold Nasri and Cesc in one window and where are their replacements ? Arteta is a good player
who was needed along with Cesc and not instead of .He is no Cesc replacement . This board needs a kick
up the backside but who will do that when they are busy scratching one another's back .



Not really sure where you are coming from. My point is, we most certainly do NOT need to go out and spend 100m in a transfer window, but we can definitely afford to spend 25/30m on one really world class player, and that one world class player every season or so would transform this team.

Maybe you should read what I actually said because it seems you are arguing a point that I didn't make.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Jay22 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:25 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:
Fabrestuta wrote:
We don't need to buy multiple top drawer players at one time. .


I would take that statement with a pinch of salt in first place but even if i agree with you for a moment ,
When you cannot buy multiple top draw players at one time , why do u sell two of your best players
in one window ? There are separate rules for selling and buying is it ?

We have sold Nasri and Cesc in one window and where are their replacements ? Arteta is a good player
who was needed along with Cesc and not instead of .He is no Cesc replacement . This board needs a kick
up the backside but who will do that when they are busy scratching one another's back .

I see where you're coming from, but I think Arteta is the closest we could have got in terms of "replacing" Cesc.

Let's face it, we were never going to buy Sneijder, who is, in my opinion, the only player in the world who can come close to replacing Cesc. Anyone else (Goetze, Ozil et al.) would have been a major risk. They might have been brilliant but there is an equal chance they would have flopped in the PL big time. I don't think we could have afforded that kind of risk. Arteta is an experienced player who knows the league very well, so I always thought he'll be a good buy and could do the job. I think he has done pretty well so far.
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Re: Usmanov challenging Kroenke

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:44 pm

Fabrestuta wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:
Fabrestuta wrote:
We don't need to buy multiple top drawer players at one time. .


I would take that statement with a pinch of salt in first place but even if i agree with you for a moment ,
When you cannot buy multiple top draw players at one time , why do u sell two of your best players
in one window ? There are separate rules for selling and buying is it ?

We have sold Nasri and Cesc in one window and where are their replacements ? Arteta is a good player
who was needed along with Cesc and not instead of .He is no Cesc replacement . This board needs a kick
up the backside but who will do that when they are busy scratching one another's back .



Not really sure where you are coming from. My point is, we most certainly do NOT need to go out and spend 100m in a transfer window, but we can definitely afford to spend 25/30m on one really world class player, and that one world class player every season or so would transform this team.

Maybe you should read what I actually said because it seems you are arguing a point that I didn't make.


All i meant was that , since we cannot afford to blow 100 million quid in one window ,why sell your two best players
which would require about 50-60 million quid to replace them . United have done the buying one quality and other
mid-rung player kinda tactic since ages now .They have a clear head-start in that they already
have a core made of top draw players .They are very well placed in terms of quality and depth . We have to do the catching up . We cannot wait till we f*ck-up completely to recruit players . We are lagging and we are on the verge of dropping out of top 4 cos of our already wafer thin squad being exposed by major injuries . Don't you think we need a striker and a play-maker as a must in the January transfer window if we are way off 4th place especially with Wilshere out for almost the entire season ? Hazard would cost us no less than 30 million quid while a decent striker would cost
us at-least another 15-20 million . Don't you think we need these signings , by that i mean quality signings which
would make immediate impact or should we take a chance with top-4 finish especially given our injury record .
So is Wenger ready to blow 50 million quid in the next window ? Most certainly not .
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