by Reverend Gooner » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:32 pm
by elkanofan » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:59 pm
Reverend Gooner wrote:He is one of the more likeable dominators in sport. Button stamping down the fact that he is the number 1 Mclaren driver, he just needs to learn to start better.
by Artemis8 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:54 pm
by Futuo » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:03 pm
by Artemis8 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:38 pm
by Artemis8 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:46 pm
Youngie wrote:I'd love to see Di Resta get some point on Sunday. Force India have been the perfect model for a new team in F1. They have an outside chance of catching Renault this season for there best ever finish.
by Futuo » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:36 am
by Futuo » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:48 pm
by VCC » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:57 pm
by Futuo » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:09 pm
by VCC » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:18 pm
Futuo wrote:Money has ruined the 'sport'. In the past innovators like Colin Chapman could gain an advantage with ingenious design, now the rules are so nailed down it is hard to steal a march on your rivals, but like football a big budget doesn't always guarantee success Toyota & Mercedes for example, and even Ferrari for many many years.
But it is impossible to go backwards, the bigger teams will always be that, the days of the likes of Lotus & Williams winning are long gone, which in footballing terms is probably like PNE or Ipswich ever winning something major again.
And just like football the tickets are taken over by corporate bods now. I used to get free F1 tickets at Silverstone 'my seat' got punted further away from the start finish line by clueless folk there on a corporate jolly for maybe selling more photo copiers or some such, last time I was there there was a bloke in front asking his mate which car James Hunt was in, this was 1995 !! Make the prawn sandwich brigade seem like avid fans by comparison.
by Futuo » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:24 pm
by VCC » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:35 pm
Futuo wrote:Yachting - like standing in a cold shower ripping up twenty pound notes (or so I was told by an ex motor sport bod ha ha)
But AFAIK the F1 teams are run like a business in that they make money which is not like football where the likes of Chelsea and City are quite prepared to make a loss year after year to maybe win something.
A team boss like Frank Williams will still appear on the Times Rich List despite his team not having won anything for yonks, in footballing terms he's Mick McCarthy.
by Futuo » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:46 pm
by VCC » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:51 pm
Futuo wrote:It must be okay for the teams like Sauber to make up the numbers, they must get enough out of just being there to justify the costs.
Guess it all depends on the Financial fair Play thing, but as it stands now, no a poor team will never win the CL, it's an elite club and only the rich are allowed in, although for a team like Arsenal being there at all is an achievement as they are beating other clubs that spend more.
They tried to even things out costs wise in F1, and I guess it worked up to a point as Red Bull's budget will be smaller than McLaren's or Ferrari's. I guess Wenger is wanting Arsenal to be Red Bull but so far we're Renault.