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Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby elkanofan » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:05 pm

The Goats Horn wrote:
elkanofan wrote:I have no f***ing idea why goats horn feels sorry for those mentioned, they where all shit. I mean yes ramsey did run, but he didn't do hardly anything. Szenscy made some good saves but was so so poor for Rooneys free kicks!


Szczensy was left exposed time and time again
Jenkinson I already explained
Ramsey is expected to dictate the game but its too soon for him
Coquelin's Premiership debut
Van Persie is watching his beloved Arsenal fall apart around him


No, I'm sorry. They all could have been much better. van persie just froze man! like you said WATCHED his beloved Arsenal fall apart. Nobody deserves any pat on the back or any praise, they all must take collective responsibility!
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Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby Plymouth Gooner » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:07 pm

Ramsey has been poor every time I've seen him play this season.
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:07 pm

You know i got flamed for questioning the decision to sell Eboue . Jenkinson is a kid with zero experience . Wenger should have see this coming . How did he expect a 19 year old with zero experience to hold up the full might of EPL
and Champions league in his first season . Wenger sold Clichy , knowing very well that Gibbs gets injured getting out
of his bed with the calamity waiting to happen with Traore as back up . The end result . We had two full backs who weren't good enough for a club side let alone a top club playing together in the same game . WTF is happening . Now i have always maintained Djorou and Koscieny aren't good enough to be starters . Now What Wenger does is he plays them together and the end result ? United tore a new arsehole right thru the central defence .Now i hate to admit it , does Arshavin deserve a place on the bench let alone start games for us ? he has woeful since last season . Why is he starting ? Although i was very impressed with Coequelin , whose mistake is it that he was thrown in to the deep end in his first game ,that too against the Champions ?

Now who is to blame for the above mess ? only one man Wenger and it is his doing . He has to take the piss no choice . What did he think ? He thought he will put out a side made of kinder garden kids and get away with it at Old Trafford ? He has two days to sort out the mess. I don't know how he does it , but he has to sign quality players and there is no choice . There will be a mutiny from the fans across the world if he doesn't . Nobody is bigger than this club , not even Wenger .It is his mess , he has to sort it out. If he can't ,he should leave that's it.
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby elkanofan » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:09 pm

Plymouth Gooner wrote:Ramsey has been poor every time I've seen him play this season.


He's done well in my book, but he does disappear from games too much for long periods!
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Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby Plymouth Gooner » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:09 pm

elkanofan wrote:
Plymouth Gooner wrote:Ramsey has been poor every time I've seen him play this season.


He's done well in my book, but he does disappear from games too much for long periods!


Not physical enough to play DM, not creative enough to play ACM.
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:11 pm

Plymouth Gooner wrote:
elkanofan wrote:
Plymouth Gooner wrote:Ramsey has been poor every time I've seen him play this season.


He's done well in my book, but he does disappear from games too much for long periods!


Not physical enough to play DM, not creative enough to play ACM.


Typical Wenger kinda player , doing a little bit of everything but not good at one thing .
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby elkanofan » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:14 pm

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elkanofan wrote:
Plymouth Gooner wrote:Ramsey has been poor every time I've seen him play this season.


He's done well in my book, but he does disappear from games too much for long periods!


Not physical enough to play DM, not creative enough to play ACM.


Well.. so far it's true he hasn't been great attakingwise but he should have it still in his locker, I mean remember two years ago some of the assists and chances he was creating :)

One the team settles you'll see it more.
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby CynicalGooner » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:15 pm

Plymouth Gooner wrote:
elkanofan wrote:
Plymouth Gooner wrote:Ramsey has been poor every time I've seen him play this season.


He's done well in my book, but he does disappear from games too much for long periods!


Not physical enough to play DM, not creative enough to play ACM.

That's because he's neither. Like Lansbury he is just a CM. The one to play between a Song and a playmaker to balance things
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby Reverend Gooner » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:19 pm

PLAYER RATINGS UP
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby SE13 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:33 pm

Reverend Gooner wrote:PLAYER RATINGS UP


Oh dear, that'll be the worst ratings of all time.

Thing is, it's not the players. Wenger got it all wrong for a change. He can't just blame the injuries and suspensions, he's had all summer to address it, but sat on his arse flogging who he could for pathetically low prices. For crying out loud, Fabregas went for less than Andy Carroll, and that says more than you need to know.

Some players tried, most were out of their depth, and I think that it needs reflecting in those ratings. At the end of the day, most people here knew we were on a hiding to nothing, in fact the only person that didn't was Wenger, the very architect of the failure - He can hide behind the smokescreen of injuries and suspensions, but it was his job to make sure it didn't happen. He's has all summer to do something about it, and did nothing aside from agreeing bargain knock down prices for those sold.

ManUre did their business nice and early, paid maybe more than they should, but secured a decent team with all the depth it needs, plus Internationals to replace injuries and suspensions. Arsenal did f**k all, and now blame the injuries and suspensions. Spot the difference.

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Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby Plymouth Gooner » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:38 pm

Merson, for all the crap he talks, made a good point.

Wenger went for exactly the same formation and tactics as he always does, despite having eight players out injured. Merse's point was Wenger should have gone for a formation that suited the players he had available.
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby johnny28 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:38 pm

ManUre did their business nice and early, paid maybe more than they should, but secured a decent team with all the depth it needs, plus Internationals to replace injuries and suspensions. Arsenal did f**k all, and now blame the injuries and suspensions. Spot the difference.


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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby elkanofan » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:54 pm

Plymouth Gooner wrote:Merson, for all the crap he talks, made a good point.

Wenger went for exactly the same formation and tactics as he always does, despite having eight players out injured. Merse's point was Wenger should have gone for a formation that suited the players he had available.


I know, that shit formation and gameplan was built for Fabregas, whats the f***ing point using it when he's gone!
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby Zedie » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:05 pm

The thing that pisses me off the most, is that he decided to take our only recognised DM off. It was a proper landslide after coquelin was subbed, he did really well for the time he was on.

Wenger's sub actually made things far worse.
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Re: Man Utd Vs Arsenal | Premiership 28/08/2011

Postby elkanofan » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:07 pm

If he plays that 4-2-3-1 again I'll be very annoyed!
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