Forest wrote:Dont get why it was the good old days fighting and rioting?! thousands of people were used as pawns in rich boys games.
Because it wasn't that way - It's just the way the "do-gooders" today would have you believe.
Rioting I think is an over-exaggeration, yes they happened, but only thanks to the OB sticking their oar in to places it wasn't needed, beefing up things to make it look like a riot, and thus covering their own shortfalls.
Let's say I went into the old Trent End at Forest, and told them all that I'd taken it. How many people will laugh, or how many people will react?
Never forgetting that for one minute, the only people involved in any "troubles" were like minded people.
Now into that, throw a couple of hundred people that couldn't get into the away end, or didn't want to. What now? (Also give thought to the fact that almost every ground charged more for away fans than home fans, and games weren't all ticket back then)
I touched on this in the "riots" thread, you defended your manor back then, get the "popular" end, and the noise was all ours.
It does go a bit deeper, but remember I'm not nor ever have been "firm" - I lived in SouthEast London for starters, and was at the younger age so never really mixed with those that were, and certainly didn't want to be part of what they were all about outside of football.
It's no particular secret that I've been pinched a few times, and done for public order offences - In fact the treasury ought to be pleased with my contributions. But I never have been, nor once were "firm" - Some on here were, and for obvious reasons, you'll have to work those out for yourselves.