Usmanov or Kroenke?

[GSK_AFC]

Anything as long as Kroenkes out!

[gzagee]

Usmanov made his money through partnership with the Karimov regime and cutting a deal with Putin for Petro-dollars. His alleged crimes put even Abramovich's shadowy past into the shade.

[TRA Dial Square]

That no obligation at 30% rule was allegedly thrown out before it even got made official people are saying?

[Arsenal~Fanatic]

The poll is showing the trend which is apparent not just in this forum but across the web. Kroenke and PHW are two blokes who have not allowed the club to come out of hibernation in the last seven years. They have not allowed the club to achieve its full potential football wise. No i am not talking about making those 30-40 million pound signings rather that they are happy to have put in a business model which is good enough to get 4th but anymore would be an aberration than due to ambition.

We are a club lost in the never ending phase of transition. Every time we feel like we are on the verge of achieving something our main man is sold which dawns another era of rebuilding. Viera, Henry, Cesc, and now RVP. There is a clear pattern emerging with respect to the way we operate. We sell our best players when they are still in their their prime and when we need their services the most.

PHW and Kroenke it seems have given a simple brief to Wenger. Get us CL football by spending as little as possible and we wil let you run the club the way you want. They have never put pressure on Wenger to go out and bolster the squad or have never asked him questions regarding his failure to win anything in the past seven years. We need to break this stranglehold that PHW, Kroenke and their troupe have on this football club. The only man who is capable of putting pressure on PHW and Kroenke would be Usmanov and nobody else.

There is a lackadaisical approach to footballing decisions and am much anybody does not like it , a kick on the backside is what is needed and i am afraid the only man capable of delivering the kick is Usmanov. I am not endorsing his background as i do not much about it apart from media reports but he has at-least come out and spoken about the vision while silent Stan is too busy fattening his corpus.

[gzagee]

I'll tell youse lot what I glean: it's that only now people are realising we're a selling club. And it's polarisation has been brought into sharp focus by the influx of billionaires' money.
As I've said before since the day Wenger arrived we've been a selling club. Anelka, Overmars, Petit, all brought in for little money and sold on for huge profits.
No-one really cared much then because we only had ManU's money to compete with and thuse were only really competing against them for league titles. And they themselves never splashed money like the Citehs and Chelseas have done.
Once Abramovich and the Abu-Dhabi royalty came the playing field changed immeasurably.

Our philosophy in buying cheap and selling at a profit has been going on a lot longer than seven years. It's been our way for 16 years. For the first nine years you guys turned a blind eye, and only now envy the roubles and riyals those clubs splash out.

I do not believe we need to go down that route. If we open the purse strings a little more we can compete. If we negotiate and maximise commercial deals we can compete. If we restructure the payroll we can compete.

[Arsenal~Fanatic]

I do not believe we need to go down that route. If we open the purse strings a little more we can compete. If we negotiate and maximise commercial deals we can compete. If we restructure the payroll we can compete.

Isn't this exactly what Usmanov is saying Gza..

[Leody]

I do not believe we need to go down that route. If we open the purse strings a little more we can compete. If we negotiate and maximise commercial deals we can compete. If we restructure the payroll we can compete.

That's the important bit.

Too many people think when we call for more spending that we want it to be stupid amounts. That couldn't be further from the truth. I just want us to at least be on the levels of net spend equal to the likes of mid-table teams, or actually just spend something.

It's the net profit from transfers over the last five + years that does my head in. Turn that £25m profit into a £25m spend over the last 5 years, and that's £50m difference in talent on the pitch this season. That could have made a big difference in results.

[ChVint22]

I do not believe we need to go down that route. If we open the purse strings a little more we can compete. If we negotiate and maximise commercial deals we can compete. If we restructure the payroll we can compete.

Isn't this exactly what Usmanov is saying Gza..

Even if that is what he's saying, we don't need him to do that, we just need Wenger to be a bit less stubborn.


I know you said that if Usmanov was in charge he'd put pressure on Wenger to spend a bit more, but that is just an assumption, and my assumption would be that if he did that, either Wenger would say "No", and then be fired, or Wenger would just quit.

[Pudpop]

An important thing to remember is that we don't want to be known as an overspending club. As much as we need to spend, overspending like Chelsea and Citeh do would mean other teams will expect the extra 5-10mil per player.

I think Usmanov doesn't want us to go out and pay 40+ mil for anybody, but I think what he wants is for us to give 20 mil to Dortmund for Kagawa so that United shut up about him, and in January if we have a genuine title chance for us to buy an extra world-class player to bolster the squad and ensure contention.

[Pudpop]

Also disappointed to see so many AST members in favour of increased Usmanov involvement. They should know better

I'd like to know why ...

Usmanov represents change. Change in this case is good.

[friedslice]

Dont give a f**k anymore, over it all. Sold down the river by this current lot, those shareholder/board member profits shown last week sent me over the edge. They're making hundreds of millions while the club can't afford a few dozen million to help us compete again.
All these greedy **** need kicking out, but they'll only be replaced by more. We can't win, we've been left behind not only as fans but as a football club. Really lost interest in what direction we go now. We don't need a sugar daddy's money and I'd never want one, but as of last week Usmanov was the only one who's come out and talked sense whilst PHW and Wenger mug us off as usual.
I thought we were about to see the light and taking steps in the right direction, RVP's statement put pay to all that and we're as usual back to square one being a selling club.

Personally just want this current lot to chuck 60 million wengers way and say spend it, that's what should be happening. But given they said this week we're not in trouble they clearly can't see beyond their balance books and mega profits.

[EvAMY-CRAIGLEEAFC]

Poll created again with "neither" option..

Now i have voted that one.

[Goonerfromafrica]

Bring back Dein!

[Gs1981]

Usmanov

Or any f**ker who has some money.

[ThereIsBearCum]

Neither all the way.
It's a choice between a guy milking the club for all the cash he can or a United fan... not exactly appealing options.