Who am I missing?

[Fabrestuta]

History tells us that its incredibly difficult signing players during the summers of major international tournaments. Clubs might want players but it just doesn't pan out often as not. To me this means it might be a less than satisfactory off season UNLESS we get deals done before the Euros.

Saying that, get a grip man. We had a dreadful start to the season and came 3rd, yes we were a furlong behind citeh and united but come on, it could have ended a lot worse.

I have been one of the biggest WOB in recent times but I think he did a remarkable job in the latter half of the season tbh. It was a hole he and the board dug themselves, not overlooking that, but he dug us out of it and we finished in a spot no one would have expected.

[Leody]

If Liverpool just had a bit more luck in front of goal they could have been really tough this season. I don't know the exact figures, but they created boatloads of chances this season, just missing that bit of edge. I think it is foolish to dismiss them as a non factor.

As for our squad... I'm going to wait till after this transfer window before I make any final judgement. Hopefully the signing of Podolski is a sign of a more ambitious summer, but we'll have to wait and see.

[friedslice]

Wow, the negativity reaching wrist slitting proportions, insane.

Liverpool will spend money on improving their squad. All the unbiased pundits thought their squad looked pretty good on paper before the start of this season. We were just lucky that they have such a shit manager - long may he reign.

So because the pundits think they look good they'll be better than us next year? behave. We finished 18
points ahead of them. They'd have to sign 3 Messi's to catch that up next year The scouse prick on talkshite at the start of this season ranted on about how great the liverpool squad is and how they have potential to win the league, especially under king ken it's the same shit every season.

I don't see why we should get '..top 4, as always' by default. We proved this season that we are just a couple of bad results away from 6th place.

We were yes, but we were also a few wins away from wrapping up a top 3 spot with several games to spare. Why the glass half empty outlook?

RVP has proven to be a very good captain. Listening to what he said after the match today, I'm thinking he may well be setting us up for a farewell speech sometime soon. Even if he stays we need a leader in the defense.

Keeping RVP is pivotal, noone has a clue what's happening it's rediculous reading between the lines.

Hearing on Talksport Comolli saying how good Pat Rice was as a defensive coach, makes me wonder how much Wenger is going to listen to Bould in his new role.

Bould is a screamer, very tough and won't take or accept any shit. He was an integral part of one of the best organised defenses in football, his influence on the squad could be very important.

Our defense is getting worse year on year.

Now it's been so horribly exposed it might be time they start changing the focus and working hard on it, Bould will help, as will a solid defensive signing

We don't have enough goals in our midfield.

Signing a top class AM will change that, having Wilshere back (our 2nd best player) will change that, having Ox playing more of a role, Gervinho hopefully being more settled in a second season and the likes of Ryo coming back will all change that.

Our fullbacks have no idea how to defend, especially positionally.

Down to Wenger tactics. hopefully Bould can change that.

Our midfield has no idea how to protect our defense.

[/quote]

M'Vila will make a HUGE difference in that respect

Tell me this team wouldn't finish ahead of liverpool, scum, chelsea and challenge for trophies:

--------------Chesney
Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Gibbs
Gervinho Wilshere M'Vila Kagawa
--------Podolski Van Persie

(Vertonghen, Mertesacker, Walcott, Rosicky, Benayoun, Oxlade, Arteta, Ryo etc)

The squad won't be perfect, but it'll still be a very good squad with only a few more holes to really plug (back up LB/RB/ST)

[Fabrestuta]

Only thing I strongly disagree with there is the M'Vila thing fried. Not sold on him at all and think he could pan out to be another Gervinho.

[friedslice]

Best of the rest behind the Manchester money, third best team in the country, I don't see too much to moan about considering we had our worst start in nearly 60 years and were talking potential relegation or mid table finishes after the first month or two. If finishing third is cause to be so negative then I feel f***ing sorry for you if you actually supported a genuinely shit team. f**k me I remember us being nowhere near the top 6 let alone top 3 and we still weren't so negative.

[FatSadGooner]

I'm genuinely pleased that you are optimistic about next season.

But today's game just underlined everything that has been so bad about us, as far as I'm concerned.

For once in my life I don't think I want what this guys smoking. We just got third spot after our worst start to a season in decades, why, within hours of that are we talking about mid table and finishing below sides we just comfortably finished above Coz we were losing yet another game to a side we should be beating comfortably, and only won because their keeper was worse than our whole defense

Our squad is a fourth place squad, I've said that since September 1st. I've also maintained we add 4 quality players (defender, 2 midfielders and striker) and we'd be able to challenge for the title next year.We need to change our tactics to have any chance of that as well as bring in better backup for the first team, as well as those 4 players you mentioned
Given we've signed Podolski and we're strongly linked to Vertonghen, M'Vila and a host of talented AM's I don't see reason for negativity. We've just overcome a tough season with a poor squad, I can't see any way but up now. We have money, our fans have voiced their disproval all season and our performances should finally prove to Wenger and the board that it's time for a change in focus and time to start spending and strengthening.We won't get Vertonghen, and I've seen nothing definite about any decent AMs. Wenger is talking his usual BS about all these great players we are going to put a derisory bid in for, just to make sure the season tickets sell. We have always had more money than we spend, what real indicators are there that this season we are going to spend on more than the one genuine buy, and maybe a couple of kids. I love your belief that our performances 'should' prove to AW that things aint right. Why should the board change their focus when we are as successful as we've always been and they are as big a bunch of shrivelled testicles as they've always been. I hope I'm wrong, btw.

I think we'll sign 3 quality players and have a very good squad for next season. If we don't then Wenger shouldn't be in charge next summer. But he will be.
Why do people say Liverpool will improve every season btw Because their owner wants them to

some big signings, Bould in as assitant, improve the defensive organisation, get our key players fit and we could start next year a real chance of silverware. The worst should most certainly be behind us now, and there's no reason it shouldn't be other than if our board continue to rape us for their own financial gains (in which case we should be rioting outside highbury).

Have a great summer, I'll see you at the riots

[FatSadGooner]

Best of the rest behind the Manchester money, third best team in the country, I don't see too much to moan about considering we had our worst start in nearly 60 years and were talking potential relegation or mid table finishes after the first month or two. If finishing third is cause to be so negative then I feel f***ing sorry for you if you actually supported a genuinely shit team. f**k me I remember us being nowhere near the top 6 let alone top 3 and we still weren't so negative.

TBH I used to enjoy the good old days when we were proper shit, because the expectation just wasn't there. I was just grateful for the good days when they came along.

What is so frustrating now is that we've come third playing some pretty bad football for much of the time, 18 months ago we were genuinely 2 players away from winning the title.

But now we are 4 good signings away from getting a decent first 11 out there, let alone thinking of all the backup players we need in reserve for when our shite medical team leaves half our squad crocked for most of next season.

I'm glad for those of you who 'get' the enjoyment out of today.

I just don't, I'm afraid.

Loads of relief, of course, but a feeling that it's all been an unnecessary struggle.

And 'Best of the rest behind the Manchester money'. We have more disposable cash than Utd, we are only £20-£30k a week behind City on weekly wages we could afford if we were managed properly. This is as weak a Utd squad as we've seen for a while, but they can challenge City because they have a good manager, whilst we are a gazillion miles behind them, because of all the flaws in our setup.

No need to feel sorry for me, btw. I'm used to this feeling about now. By the the time we've been starved of football for a couple of months I'll have re-energised and I'll be champing at the bit, like the good old pavlovian dog that I am.

[friedslice]

Oh I agree it certainly did expose us (again) but I think most people have noticed that by now...Wenger included. We've had a very poor season and gotten very very lucky, I'm not pleased with the performances and the same old mistakes and weaknesses being exposed week in week out. But at the end of the day, after a poor season a lot of us are disappointed with we still got third, we still managed to finish ahead of the scum, we're still number 1 in London and I'm certain this will be the beginning of big things. We need to ride onwards from this, if Wenger and the board don't act this summer then we'll plummet quickly, but I think after scraping it so close this year, and how disgruntled the paying fans have been I just can't see them taking the piss and not signing some serious quality this summer.

The season was poor, but we got there in the end and should be positive of big signings and a big future (fingers crossed and praying that Wenger does it)

[EvAMY-CRAIGLEEAFC]

the unbiased pundits are wrong then
Adam, Henderson, Downing, Carroll, Johnson etc are all extremely overrated

Adam is good. Carroll is not suited to Liverpool in more ways than one. He is not as bad as some make out. The rest are rubbish.

[starmandb]

We finished 12th in 95. 6 points from relegation.

yes so one season defines your status as a club then?

[starmandb]

If Liverpool just had a bit more luck in front of goal they could have been really tough this season. I don't know the exact figures, but they created boatloads of chances this season, just missing that bit of edge. I think it is foolish to dismiss them as a non factor.

As for our squad... I'm going to wait till after this transfer window before I make any final judgement. Hopefully the signing of Podolski is a sign of a more ambitious summer, but we'll have to wait and see.

yes having different dimensions to the goals liverpool had to score in was rather unfair on them?
you make your own luck

[Inchpractice]

Best of the rest behind the Manchester money, third best team in the country, I don't see too much to moan about considering we had our worst start in nearly 60 years and were talking potential relegation or mid table finishes after the first month or two. If finishing third is cause to be so negative then I feel f***ing sorry for you if you actually supported a genuinely shit team. f**k me I remember us being nowhere near the top 6 let alone top 3 and we still weren't so negative.

That's the way I tend to look at it.
There were some real lows this season, far too many and a good few highs as well (Thierry, 5-3 v Chel$ki, 5-2 v Hotspunk, beating City) but if you look purely at the position we finished in it's really pretty good.

The only two teams that finished higher than us were a team with unlimited funds and a team that have won the title 19 times (almost 20!) and finished with the same points as the winners.
Plus they both crashed out of the CL before us and then the Europa league as well.

I'm sure there would've been seasons in the past when 70 points was enough to win the league.

[Leody]

If Liverpool just had a bit more luck in front of goal they could have been really tough this season. I don't know the exact figures, but they created boatloads of chances this season, just missing that bit of edge. I think it is foolish to dismiss them as a non factor.

As for our squad... I'm going to wait till after this transfer window before I make any final judgement. Hopefully the signing of Podolski is a sign of a more ambitious summer, but we'll have to wait and see.

yes having different dimensions to the goals liverpool had to score in was rather unfair on them?
you make your own luck

You do indeed, but they weren't as bad as the record would indicate. As many draws as they had, with just a little more finishing ability those easily could have been wins. They're squad next year with a little more clinical finishing could easily be more than 10 points better off. That's why I'm not going to just dismiss them as nothing more than an average mid table team.

We'll have to wait and see though. Carroll was starting to find a bit of form this spring, so if he settles in next season they could be a threat.

[ThereIsBearCum]

If Liverpool just had a bit more luck in front of goal they could have been really tough this season. I don't know the exact figures, but they created boatloads of chances this season, just missing that bit of edge. I think it is foolish to dismiss them as a non factor.

As for our squad... I'm going to wait till after this transfer window before I make any final judgement. Hopefully the signing of Podolski is a sign of a more ambitious summer, but we'll have to wait and see.

It's not luck if they can't finish properly, it means they're crap at finishing