19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

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Postby Zenith » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:11 pm

Sims wrote:Our midfield completely shut down all outlets and made it so easy for our defenders

Finally someone who gets it.
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Sims » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:14 pm

I don't think he holds onto the ball for too long the same way Ross does. Wilshere does it because he knows the defenders either gonna stand off and let him get in a dangerous position or hell commit and leave a gap which a forward can exploit

Wilshere's footballing brain is miles ahead of Ross' as well, which can be seen especially with his ability to sit deep for England and spray balls all over the place

For me Wilshere is so absurdly talented anyone who doesn't see it is a f***ing idiot. Everything is there and even last season he started hitting the ball more often too

He's nailed on to start at the euros which could go either way for us. He could either have a great tournament and build up confidence for the start of the season or he'll get crunched within the first game
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Fenice » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:27 pm

Knew I liked you Sims :1970_two_smileys_drinking_beer_together.gif:
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:29 pm

Sims wrote:I don't think he holds onto the ball for too long the same way Ross does. Wilshere does it because he knows the defenders either gonna stand off and let him get in a dangerous position or hell commit and leave a gap which a forward can exploit

Wilshere's footballing brain is miles ahead of Ross' as well, which can be seen especially with his ability to sit deep for England and spray balls all over the place

For me Wilshere is so absurdly talented anyone who doesn't see it is a f***ing idiot. Everything is there and even last season he started hitting the ball more often too

He's nailed on to start at the euros which could go either way for us. He could either have a great tournament and build up confidence for the start of the season or he'll get crunched within the first game


For arsneal he always runs into players, gets badly fouled he clearly holds onto the ballf to long.

For England he plays the opposite.
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:33 pm

With Barkley is not even that he has a bad football brain or inteniollaly holds on to the ball for to long I think it just takes half a second toclong for his brain to scan what options is available which is bad in a leauge so quick.
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Zenith » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:39 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:With Barkley is not even that he has a bad football brain or inteniollaly holds on to the ball for to long I think it just takes half a second toclong for his brain to scan what options is available which is bad in a leauge so quick.

A football brain is all about analysing situations, concentration and thinking quickly. With other words Barkley's football brain currently isn't very good.
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:48 pm

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Marsbar100 wrote:With Barkley is not even that he has a bad football brain or inteniollaly holds on to the ball for to long I think it just takes half a second toclong for his brain to scan what options is available which is bad in a leauge so quick.

A football brain is all about analysing situations, concentration and thinking quickly. With other words Barkley's football brain currently isn't very good.

I think he does anyalyse the situations and act correctly to a reasonable enough level i just think he is a bit slow, at school some kids will learn to read and write quickest than others, Barkley prob toook slightly longer.

Any other leauge he wouldn't have to think as quick. I don't think his brain is that bad but if he wants to move from a very good player to a great player he does need to play a bit quicker.

Someone like ox has a bad football brain, doesn't pass when he should, plays the wrong passes when he does pass etc..
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Sims » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:49 pm

LOOOOOOOOL you do have a point there Miles

Let's just say that little old Ross was still 'reading' the grey Biff Chip & Kipper books in year 4
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:01 pm

Tbh watched a Barkley England highlight compared to Everton, for England he was always passing quite quick and not ignoring easy option like for Everton. Hodgson and neville prob told him not to hold onto the ball for long. So it's prob just Martinez is weak like Wenger is with ramsey
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Cripps » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:10 pm

Hoping negotiations have started to bring barkley and lukaku home.
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Woteva » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:12 pm

Sims wrote:To be honest we'll probably win all of our remaining games yet it won't be enough


Unlikely winning all our remaining games. That motto; Way too little, way too late. reads all over this team as it has done for a decade. Cystal Palace should have done Leicester, or at least held them to a point. And now the reffing is going to them aswell, because everybody loves the underfox. Even if they drop a few points like 5-6, they will likely do it, why not..

Whether, or not we are insulted below our rivals remains the mystery? Throwing it away to Watford was unthinkable. What were they thinking, no excuse, sack them all and get a new team in, type of shit. Loss for words. It wasn't the time or the place, Tactically they missed that when in front of the priemership straining for games, where it was the time too concentrate on a single achieveable trophy. However when it mattered at home, upon gaining such a medicore position from such medicore play. Sure go right ahead and thow the silverware away, what. Bringing out another absolutely stupid loss, making our home record a sure bet against. Well at least the away tickets are like a 1/3 of the other price. Because whose goona want to watch that other home team. Fly off the motto right, just don't tell me it meant away?

Iwobi looked good, but Welbeck the only striker is on some kind of bambi legs, and the other two are like maybe we will score, maybe if we feel like it, because a miss counts right lads. But the result wasn't a 3 nil against a team that was nowhere, no nowhere at all. We can blame the ref the f'ing c*** for the one that didn't go in. However...

In short, quite resigned to the blatant fact, it won't make any difference.... Can only really play for a loss of insult, as a runner up ahead of Tottenham...
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby gooney » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:10 pm

Alexis wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:
Sims wrote:Everton are 12th and this was their 8th game they've lost at home I think?

I doubt this is their worst performance so far, they are a terrible side

They have a better attack than us


considering it was completely non existant yesterday and we are not the most renowned for our defending then its safe to assume that its actually not that great of an attack is it?

Then how come they have score 5 league goals more than us going into the match yesterday? They just had a really bad that. That is not by any means the way they attack. This was by far their worst attacking display. Basically every attacker had an off day. Again we have few mid/lower teams coming up. Lets see if our attaCK CAN BREAK DOWN THESE TEAMS BEFORE WE SAY ITS GOOD
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Re: 19/03/16 | Everton 0-2 Arsenal | Premier League

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:48 pm

Glad to see Welbeck scoring and Alex, some good combinations and great pass by Sanchez.
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Re: 19/03/2016 | Everton Vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:59 pm

Sims wrote:That's the Arsenal I know

Quality football

Welbeck yu f***ing Don. Bye Theo and Giroud you shit ****



We've always done well with pacey, skillful strikers, if only Danny could skill up on his shots and overall accuracy he could be exactly what we need.

Its in there somewhere but he needs to hurry up and bring it out and that effin Wenger needs to stop stifling his progress by benching him for Giroud all the time.

Giroud has had his chance, he's never going to be no1 choice material for a club the size of ours.
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Re: 19/03/2016 | Everton Vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Callum » Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:00 pm

Cripps wrote:Lukaku v kos.

Dear god

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