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Re: Kony 2012

Postby ThereIsBearCum » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:21 pm

Dejan wrote:
TheLittleMozart wrote:Pisses me off when people say, well I wan to do something to help... sometimes doing something is worse that doing nothing!!


Although I think what theyre doing with the financials is not 100% fair but even in this case, doing something is more helpfull then doing nothing at all. Spreading this around the world and raising awareness makes goverments being pressured. Goverments only do something if its for one of the following reasons: 1) There is oil. 2) theyre getting pressured by the people.


there's both this time!
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby elkanofan » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:39 pm

Remember the bigger picture people. Kony is just another Bogeyman, just one head of a hydra which comes about as a result of the destabilization which has been going on in African for centuries!

If you want to help Africa, it's time to bring down the criminals who own the federal reserve who fund those ill minded corporations who go into Africa. Those who lobby for militarization in Africa. I want an end to the corrupt treaties which see these African countries stripped of their resources! Not sending American armed forces in to re escalate the war in Northern Uganda, the place has been at peace for the last 5 years according to numerous sources i found yesterday. In fact ever source which had been created before March 2012 had cited the peace in the region since 2006, how Kony had fled to Sudan.

Another deception from America to send troops in for Oil and other natural resources. One source even cited how this could even be a trigger for WW3 with China being prominent in that region of African and US trying to barge in on china’s interests, further increasing the tension between the far east and far west.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby TheLittleMozart » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:20 pm

elkanofan wrote:Remember the bigger picture people. Kony is just another Bogeyman, just one head of a hydra which comes about as a result of the destabilization which has been going on in African for centuries!If you want to help Africa, it's time to bring down the criminals who own the federal reserve who fund those ill minded corporations who go into Africa. Those who lobby for militarization in Africa. I want an end to the corrupt treaties which see these African countries stripped of their resources! Not sending American armed forces in to re escalate the war in Northern Uganda, the place has been at peace for the last 5 years according to numerous sources i found yesterday. In fact ever source which had been created before March 2012 had cited the peace in the region since 2006, how Kony had fled to Sudan.

Another deception from America to send troops in for Oil and other natural resources. One source even cited how this could even be a trigger for WW3 with China being prominent in that region of African and US trying to barge in on china’s interests, further increasing the tension between the far east and far west.


Exactly mate.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby elkanofan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:38 am

The makers of the KONY 2012 video have just disabled the comment section on their video. ironically when the majority of the comments being passed in the last day have been exposing the scam and the real agenda for America to infiltrate Uganda for Oil, among further destabilization of more African countries.

This is how the truth is treated still unfortunatley.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Leody » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:46 am

How is this an American agenda to invade Uganda? :confused2:

If anything, it's the Invisible Children trying to profit off the plight of the Ugandan people... as just 30% of the money they raise every gets to the intended target.

The first question was rhetorical by the way, because the answer is surely a conspiracy theory. I find it funny that people used to constantly call Bush and Chaney war mongers though, when Obama has sent more people overseas and entered more conflicts in 3 years than they did in 8. Yet nobody ever says anything about him, oh the irony...

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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Dejan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:16 am

Leody wrote:If anything, it's the Invisible Children trying to profit off the plight of the Ugandan people... as just 30% of the money they raise every gets to the intended target.


But I wonder how much should it be in % ? :dontknow: How much do we people spend on charity of our monthly loan? 0,001% ?

I wonder what the figures are from for Example Unisef.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby elkanofan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:39 am

Leody wrote:How is this an American agenda to invade Uganda? :confused2:

If anything, it's the Invisible Children trying to profit off the plight of the Ugandan people... as just 30% of the money they raise every gets to the intended target.

The first question was rhetorical by the way, because the answer is surely a conspiracy theory. I find it funny that people used to constantly call Bush and Chaney war mongers though, when Obama has sent more people overseas and entered more conflicts in 3 years than they did in 8. Yet nobody ever says anything about him, oh the irony...

And for the record, I hate all government. Don't think of me as a Bush supporter, he did as much or more to end individual freedom as any other president.


Clandestine agenda for Oil

Same old stroy really, goin in as 'humanitarian' but cause more trouble than good. Every presient and prime minister is useless, thats the whole point really, i realized this way before looking into politics and whats really happening. I knew this at 14, when i started to see the election pattern.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby TheLittleMozart » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:59 am

Dejan wrote:
Leody wrote:If anything, it's the Invisible Children trying to profit off the plight of the Ugandan people... as just 30% of the money they raise every gets to the intended target.


But I wonder how much should it be in % ? :dontknow: How much do we people spend on charity of our monthly loan? 0,001% ?

I wonder what the figures are from for Example Unisef.


Im pretty sure I read somewhere that most charitys operate under the scheme of over 80% of thier money goes to the direct cause and The Red Cross give something like 90% to thier cause.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Dejan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:37 pm

TheLittleMozart wrote:
Dejan wrote:
Leody wrote:If anything, it's the Invisible Children trying to profit off the plight of the Ugandan people... as just 30% of the money they raise every gets to the intended target.


But I wonder how much should it be in % ? :dontknow: How much do we people spend on charity of our monthly loan? 0,001% ?

I wonder what the figures are from for Example Unisef.


Im pretty sure I read somewhere that most charitys operate under the scheme of over 80% of thier money goes to the direct cause and The Red Cross give something like 90% to thier cause.


Dont think so mate. Unisef is a big organisation, they need to pay wages too u know. I think its more like 50/60%.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby TheLittleMozart » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:50 pm

I doubt it mate becuase the majority of the people involved within unicef or most charaties will be volanatry.

A quick google search and back on 2008; of unicefs earnt / donated cash 92% went to the cause the 7% on managment.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby GunnGunn » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:54 pm

TheLittleMozart wrote:I doubt it mate becuase the majority of the people involved within unicef or most charaties will be volanatry.

A quick google search and back on 2008; of unicefs earnt / donated cash 92% went to the cause the 7% on managment.


You couldn't be more wrong there mate, voluntary? Charity workers are paid massively, especially the ones at the top of the tree.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby elkanofan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:30 pm

Now look at this picture. What your saying everyone.

Charity workers are paid massively? Now what should a charity consist of? I mean we could all meet up, put on some sort of show, raise money for a cause and take 0% profit from it, which should be the premise of having a charity.

It seems as if working for a charity has become a job, or a career even? Now when you understand that like i said earlier. People like Kony come about because of big corporations, who fund these guys, who place these guys in power and who most important arm these guys (Lord of War, Arms dealers and manufacturers want to get paid).

Now most charity workers are caring, hard working, nice generous people, but the way they are run at the top end, really, corruption is a understatement! It's one of those area's where you just do not believe people can be THAT sick, but it gets worse, trust me!
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Leody » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:32 pm

http://www.charitynavigator.org/

If you're interested in documented facts, there's the records.

And the link to Invisible Children's rating: http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.c ... rgid=12429
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby Gunner4Life » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:41 pm

This whole Kony business makes me sick . The guy who made this movie probably made a shitload of money by taking advantage of other people's weaknesses and fears.Even if Kony is "taken care " of then there are one or two worse than him who will replace him .
The jackass who made the video forgot to mention that Kony IS a victim too . Your life must be very f***ked up to end up like Kony,he was probably trained as a a child soldier,and he had little choice . The only thing that can save those people is education otherwise it's just a never ending cycle of insanity and abuse.
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Re: Kony 2012

Postby ivan itchybum » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:53 pm

Gunner4Life wrote:This whole Kony business makes me sick . The guy who made this movie probably made a shitload of money by taking advantage of other people's weaknesses and fears.Even if Kony is "taken care " of then there are one or two worse than him who will replace him .
The jackass who made the video forgot to mention that Kony IS a victim too . Your life must be very f***ked up to end up like Kony,he was probably trained as a a child soldier,and he had little choice . The only thing that can save those people is education otherwise it's just a never ending cycle of insanity and abuse.

gets 90,000 grand a year from 'em apparently :doh:
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