Atheist or Theist?

[ChVint22]

The big bang is questionable. But evolution is not. Anyone who describes evolution as a "theory" is a f***ing muppet. Worse still those who "dont believe" in it. Its like not believing in toast. Just plain bonkers.

Actually no,

Pretty much everything we have be told and spoon fed by schools the media, by the research institutions in public consciousness is suspect.

I do not trust the government i do not trust what i have been shoved in my face. Nobody should blindly trust these people, nobody should blindly trust scientific evidence without checking who the people are who's giving you the information and what are their intentions!

I have been arguing with these racist **** on the David Icke forum, one of them starts putting all these facts about how Africans have lower IQ BY FACT compared to Europeans, now most people just blindly accept this without checking what the IQ test is about, and who giving me this information and why is he giving me this information!

again, you are told this by scientists. These scientists, now again, who funded this research? Why where they looking there so vigorously? who brought this into the school system?

If you look into this you will not see this is the best evidence possible and it was unanimously brought into public consciousness fro out benefit, no, not at all. Evolution is not told to us because it helps us, empowers us and gives us irrefutable truth, it's because it suits those who funded it. That the same for everything especially in western society!Rich people have designed this society, they have the power, they have their intentions and i can tell you their intentions are not that they care about you. They don't give a shit about any of us.

Being indoctrinated heavily by school institutions and leaving with ridiculous amounts of debt to be dropped into the system to work like a slave fro the rest of you life paying off your mortgage which some rich people don't lift a finger for their entire lives but live handsomely is not the height of society!

It is what it is, for now yes, however i like to look at WHY it's like this? i don't just accept what i see in institutions and the media because money and the funding gone into the information is the most important factor!

There are many religious people who believe in evolution, and the big bang, but they just think that God started it all. Even the Pope has come out and said that they both could be true, but of course that God started them. Now, it's a bit hypocritical of the religious to believe in these things because it completely destroys what the holy books say about creation, but they are still holding out hope that there was a God behind it. In my opinion, if you can't believe even one part of the bible, Quran, or Torah, then you should discredit it all. For some people I think the reality that there probably is no heaven and that we just become worm food is scary.

[Fabrestuta]

I am a Theist and I also believe in evolution. I have never understood why you couldn't have both. As I have said many many times, if people actually believe in Adam and Eve then bless them, for me that and the rest of the bible is a book of parables, it is a guide for how you should live your life. Following a book (any of the major religious books) blindly is a good way to become a fanatic, and as such kill others if they do not believe what you believe.

[ChVint22]

I am a Theist and I also believe in evolution. I have never understood why you couldn't have both. As I have said many many times, if people actually believe in Adam and Eve then bless them, for me that and the rest of the bible is a book of parables, it is a guide for how you should live your life. Following a book (any of the major religious books) blindly is a good way to become a fanatic, and as such kill others if they do not believe what you believe.

So you just pretty much believe in creation/creator then right? And that is fine, and very plausible. The people that make me laugh are the ones that only believe certain things about their religion, and make up their owns beliefs within it, and what they don't realize is that they pretty much just make up their own beliefs/religion. It's mind boggling!!

[Fabrestuta]

I am a Theist and I also believe in evolution. I have never understood why you couldn't have both. As I have said many many times, if people actually believe in Adam and Eve then bless them, for me that and the rest of the bible is a book of parables, it is a guide for how you should live your life. Following a book (any of the major religious books) blindly is a good way to become a fanatic, and as such kill others if they do not believe what you believe.

So you just pretty much believe in creation/creator then right? And that is fine, and very plausible. The people that make me laugh are the ones that only believe certain things about their religion, and make up their owns beliefs within it, and what they don't realize is that they pretty much just make up their own beliefs/religion. It's mind boggling!!

Yeah I pretty much believe that the creator set things up and said have at it. Not a very scientific way of putting it but then again I'm not a scientist.
And yes I agree, in all the major religions you can take parts of what are preached and twist them to mean whatever you want, and is the reason we have fundamentalists. Fundamentalism in any form is incredibly dangerous as you cannot reason with these people.

[elkanofan]

The big bang is questionable. But evolution is not. Anyone who describes evolution as a "theory" is a f***ing muppet. Worse still those who "dont believe" in it. Its like not believing in toast. Just plain bonkers.

Actually no,

Pretty much everything we have be told and spoon fed by schools the media, by the research institutions in public consciousness is suspect.

I do not trust the government i do not trust what i have been shoved in my face. Nobody should blindly trust these people, nobody should blindly trust scientific evidence without checking who the people are who's giving you the information and what are their intentions!

I have been arguing with these racist **** on the David Icke forum, one of them starts putting all these facts about how Africans have lower IQ BY FACT compared to Europeans, now most people just blindly accept this without checking what the IQ test is about, and who giving me this information and why is he giving me this information!

again, you are told this by scientists. These scientists, now again, who funded this research? Why where they looking there so vigorously? who brought this into the school system?

If you look into this you will not see this is the best evidence possible and it was unanimously brought into public consciousness fro out benefit, no, not at all. Evolution is not told to us because it helps us, empowers us and gives us irrefutable truth, it's because it suits those who funded it. That the same for everything especially in western society!Rich people have designed this society, they have the power, they have their intentions and i can tell you their intentions are not that they care about you. They don't give a shit about any of us.

Being indoctrinated heavily by school institutions and leaving with ridiculous amounts of debt to be dropped into the system to work like a slave fro the rest of you life paying off your mortgage which some rich people don't lift a finger for their entire lives but live handsomely is not the height of society!

It is what it is, for now yes, however i like to look at WHY it's like this? i don't just accept what i see in institutions and the media because money and the funding gone into the information is the most important factor!

There are many religious people who believe in evolution, and the big bang, but they just think that God started it all. Even the Pope has come out and said that they both could be true, but of course that God started them. Now, it's a bit hypocritical of the religious to believe in these things because it completely destroys what the holy books say about creation, but they are still holding out hope that there was a God behind it. In my opinion, if you can't believe even one part of the bible, Quran, or Torah, then you should discredit it all. For some people I think the reality that there probably is no heaven and that we just become worm food is scary.

LOL nice, well you could had just said

Evolution set in motion by an all knowing creator!

[UFGN]

that's where peer review comes in
you have to get peers independent of the study to say it's of any merit before anyone really takes it seriously

http://www.rin.ac.uk/our-work/using-and ... ase-studie

Again:

A report of research patterns in life sciences revealing that researcher practices diverge from policies promoted by funders and information service providers

Whos funding what?

Big buisness tycoon and investors rely heavily on Marxist theory and the material western world for them to make billions of dollars! Who the f**k is going to fund research to disprove the modern sciences we see today which could mean these people losing their businesses?

Western infrastructure is not about helping mankind, it's about profit, this is what the monetary system is designed to do. Put everyone in massive debt! Please watch this video:


Evolution theory and myths like the big bang are popular and show SO much evidence because it's making some very rich people a lot of money! They are telling the masses what the WANT the masses to know, not he true story which to be honest nobody really knows, there's been so man lies!

It's all about money and control!

You are going on and on about Marxism. The only one who seems to have a politcal agenda is you.

You were very patronising yesterday and I couldnt be bothered to answer. You presumed that I believe what I read in the press, you presumed I trust the government and you seemed to presume that I knew nothing about David Icke. All wrong. I look at what is out there by way of explanation and form my own view based on reason. And evolution, researched by hundreds of people and oozing with common sense, gets my vote.

You accuse big business of having a vested interest in proving evolution. Firstly, i am yet to think of a direct example of a conflict of interest, secondly, so much hard evidence has been uncovered that it is tamper proof IMO, and thirdly, you completely ignore the fact that batting for the other side, ie religeon, we have some of the most corrupt institutions in human history, including the Catholic Church.

[elkanofan]

You are going on and on about Marxism. The only one who seems to have a politcal agenda is you.

Yes, i don't like it, it's heavily engrained into many people and its a big cause for all the madness we see today.

You were very patronising yesterday and I couldnt be bothered to answer. You presumed that I believe what I read in the press, you presumed I trust the government and you seemed to presume that I knew nothing about David Icke. All wrong. I look at what is out there by way of explanation and form my own view based on reason. And evolution, researched by hundreds of people and oozing with common sense, gets my vote.

Well i mean you have to take responsibillity for the way you came in declaring anyone who dosen't believe in evolution stupid or mad.

I like Icke but i don't necessarily agree with all that reptiallian shizz, not sure about the moon ebing a spacestation either but he stuff is either interesting or just usually checks out like problem reaction solution. Icke just one contreversial speaker, there's many more, not even perceived conspiracy nuts but those such as Michael Cremo. he speaks at length about the corruption in science, he's done many lecturers many very interesting.

You completely ignore the fact that batting for the other side, ie religeon, we have some of the most corrupt institutions in human history, including the Catholic Church.

Nah, i just didn't get to there yet, i know a lot about the corruption in religion, that along with science is corrputed by power and money and pedophillia especially, i mean it is said pedophillia was spawned from the catholic churrch itself thousands of years ago. Did you know the vatican age of consent up until a few years ago was age 12!

[elkanofan]

Evolution theory linked to Lucifernism

Interesting but dosen't surprise me.

I don't believe it at all, i think it's European arrogance.

[ThereIsBearCum]

the guy interviewed in that video is Kent Hovind... he is a flat out liar and even disowned by other young earth creationists
he's also in jail for (among other things) fraud

[elkanofan]

I think what he preaches about religion is clearly misinterpreted. he's taking the Bible words far too literally. Which sums up whats wrong with religion, just like science so much corruption over millenia!

Although his criticism of Evolution is Valid for me. He seems to be on the money in that regard. The ideology of evolution is so metaphorically linked towards satanism! This cannot be ignored! No wonder satanists such as the Rockefellers helped fund it back in the 1800s!

The ideology came first and they just looked for anything to fit into the theory and throw as much money into the propaganda promoting it. everything is propaganda, even irrefutable evidence, why are they showing that evidence? Who making money out of this?

I'm killing two birds (religion and science with just one set of videos

Believe nothing should be a motto really! f**k science until it stops being so corrupted with money and don't take religion so literally or misinterpret it so wildly!