Plymouth Gooner wrote:I just watch UFC and find the WWF style build up a bit pathetic. If I find it daft then I'm sure no serious martial artist is going to want to go over to America to compete in it.
Plymouth Gooner wrote:I don't dislike it, I like the fights (although I find the ground stuff boring, I know it is technical but it is still boring to watch) it is the build up that annoys me.
Zedie wrote:................From the Honda thread
OK, there are skillful fighters in MMA right now, and the standards have dramatically increased since the origins of drunken rednecks scuffing in a makeshift studio, but do you really think someone like Bruce Lee could be taken out so easily by the top middleweight at the moment?
Bruce Lee vs Rampage Jackson = Win to Bruce Lee - default win due to the 4 broken limbs of Jackson.
And before you say that Bruce Lee was in the 70s, he was one of the top Martial artists who went against the grain and came to the Western World against the wishes of the most senior martial arts leaders in China.
The top top boys over there dont bother themselves with TV glitz and the commercial aspect of the sport. they dont even see it as a sport....
Gs1981 wrote:The build up is essential, you have to hype fights or nobody is bothered by them, espech when the little known fighters are competing.
As for Bruce Lee fighting Quinton Jackson, for 1 Bruce Lee was no bigger than 9 stone, Rampage is a big LHW not a middleweight he is between 14.6 stone to 15.7 on fight night, Rampage would dump Lee on his head and GnP the shit out of him, or submit him.
No stand up only fighter has a chance against a well rounded MMA fighter, this was proven when World Heavyweight boxing champion James Toney fought a 47 year old wrestler Randy Couture, Randy made him his bitch for 3 minutes then submitted him.
Tyson would not of stood a chance unless he spent 10-15 years improving his ground game, Bruce Lee never had a professional fight, he never hurt anybody in his life, he was an actor.
Ali fought a MMA fight against pro wrestler Antoni Inoki with rules that there could be no takedowns (wtf)... the fight ended in a boring draw and the injurys Ali sustained to his legs in this fight f***ked up the rest of his career
Van Damme is fighting again in K1 (the biggest kickboxing company in the world) in November at the grand old age of 52 with special rules that hes not allowed to be elbowed in the face. his record in Kickboxing is 18-2 and his last fight was over 20 years ago.
Chuck Norris was a karate guy and a top one to, but again no ground game.
Steven Seagal trains with Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machda and taught them both that front teep to the face that they both did in there previous fights.
Αrsεnal wrote:is this fake like WWE ?
Gs1981 wrote:Listen lets just get some things straight.
In the other thread and this one i have heard...
'there would be some kung fu master on top of a mountain somewhere who would beat any ufc fighter'
'Bruce Lee would beat Rampage Jackson'
In a MMA fight, The master and Bruce Lee would get submitted extremely quickly.
Thats the points i see being made, your point is, they wouldnt want to fight in the UFC..ok...have that point, but we have already seen what happens when they do, they always get either Knocked out or submitted.
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